Line 589, Nathan the new project lead joins (00:31:22,762) 00:00:24,500 --> 00:01:34,280 [Leonie] Okay. Good afternoon. [laughs] Um, it's currently afternoon in Germany. And, um, I actually wanted to see a friend, but now we're here. Um, this is our first emergency Q&A because there were some, uh, issues regarding the project and, um, some people being concerned about anything that might happen to iiSU. And, um, I just introduced this, um, emergency meeting to, um, everyone so they can make a Q and... So we have a Q&A session, um, and clear some things up. Um, please note that this Q&A session is, um, being recorded and transcribed. So, if you're not okay with that, um, don't send, um, a, um, um, speaker request. Um, okay. I will, um, put the first person up here and then, um, I will answer that question. First comes, um, McLee, uh, McGee, leader of, um, something. 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,480 [Speaker 1] Hello. 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,680 [Leonie] Hello. 00:01:40,220 --> 00:01:44,140 [Speaker 1] [laughs] Uh, I have a question about iiSU, uh. 00:01:44,140 --> 00:01:44,660 [Leonie] Yes. 00:01:44,660 --> 00:01:53,380 [Speaker 1] Is it... In the future, will you be able to make groups, like communities? Like say, for example, like the Hoopla clan. 00:01:53,380 --> 00:01:57,630 [Leonie] Uh, I don't know about this. Um, if it- 00:01:57,630 --> 00:01:57,630 [Speaker 1] And- 00:01:57,630 --> 00:02:05,119 [Leonie] ... it didn't come in the presentation, it's probably not something that's being af- actively worked on, um, in the future. 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,459 [Speaker 1] Yeah. I, I know it's not actively worked on, but like, could we see it in the far future? 00:02:10,459 --> 00:02:16,860 [Leonie] I don't know if it's possible. It will probably be a thing, but I can't s- um, keep my word on this. 00:02:18,140 --> 00:02:22,800 [Leonie] Okay. That's fine. Thank you. 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:30,840 [Leonie] Okay. Um, now the next person, um, 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:37,440 [Leonie] Gavan. 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:45,240 [Speaker 2] How will we be able to, um, 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:58,920 [Speaker 2] donate to this project in the future? Is that something still being discussed? And then, also, will there be a iiSU-specific YouTube channel for stuff like 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:05,320 [Speaker 2] the original presentation to be uploaded to in the future? 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:21,850 [Leonie] Um, I think... So, um, about the whole donation situation [laughs], as I'd like to call it. Um, Usagi is currently refunding everyone. Um, this also includes people that just recently joined, uh, the Patreon. 00:03:21,850 --> 00:03:21,940 [Speaker 2] Okay. 00:03:21,940 --> 00:03:40,900 [Leonie] Um, and then we are currently, um, discussing how, um, donations will go on, um, going forward. That's still something we haven't quite worked out yet. Um, about an iiSU-specific YouTube channel or anything. Um, 00:03:40,900 --> 00:04:01,380 [Leonie] now that, um, Usagi is, uh, gone, um, we do- of- of course we don't have someone that's, um, being very talented in, uh, motion graphics. Um, so, um, I don't know if that's ever going to be a thing again. Um, 00:04:01,380 --> 00:04:03,340 [Leonie] yeah. 00:04:03,340 --> 00:04:06,180 [Speaker 2] Okay. 00:04:06,180 --> 00:04:07,940 [Leonie] Mm, 00:04:07,940 --> 00:04:17,740 [Leonie] next up, we got TVGold. 00:04:17,740 --> 00:04:35,940 [Speaker 3] Hi. Um, thank you. Um, two questions, I guess, really one serious, one a m- a bit lighthearted. Um, first off, with the stepping down of somebody who was very much, you know, present and prominent, how do you believe this will affect the core development of the project? 00:04:35,940 --> 00:04:42,000 [Leonie] Um, you mean how anything, like the entire situation is affecting development? 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,120 [Speaker 3] Yes. 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:54,099 [Leonie] Um, that's actually quite easy to answer. Um, development will continue. Um, there's... We still have all our developers. They didn't leave. And, um, 00:04:54,100 --> 00:05:06,840 [Leonie] yeah. I think we are using the weekend to, um, to just, um, yeah, rest a little and, um, yeah, go on. 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:12,680 [Speaker 3] Yeah. Um, other question, as I said, it was a bit sillier. Do you- do you guys just need a hug for a little bit? 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,200 [Leonie] [laughs] Hugs are appreciated. Yes. 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:32,260 [Speaker 3] [laughs]. Okay. Uh, thank you. We... I- I think it's safe to say that the entire community is sending big hugs. [laughs]. E- especially in the chat. Yeah. Thank you. Um, tho- those are the primary questions. Thank you. 00:05:32,260 --> 00:05:35,880 [Leonie] Okay. Thank you as well. 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:38,310 [Speaker 3] Oh, how do I leave? I'm sorry. That's it. 00:05:38,310 --> 00:05:42,160 [Leonie] Um, there's a stage. Okay. Um, 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,600 [Leonie] yeah. Next up would be Brad. [laughs] 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,260 [Leonie] Hello? 00:05:52,260 --> 00:05:54,340 [Leonie] Hi, Brad. 00:05:54,340 --> 00:05:57,760 [Speaker 4] Hi. Uh, do you think online feature will still come? 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:14,224 [Leonie] Of course. Um, the thing is, um, the idea, the main idea is that we first launch with the overall launcher-And once that's done, we will, at, um... We will go on and, um, make the online features happen. 00:06:14,224 --> 00:06:19,804 [Speaker 5] Okay. And do you think there'll be, like, a way in order to, like, sell themes for free on the shop? 00:06:19,804 --> 00:06:21,544 [Leonie] The what? 00:06:21,544 --> 00:06:24,004 [Speaker 5] The themes that you can make. 00:06:24,004 --> 00:06:52,244 [Leonie] Um, I don't know about this one. That, um... That's probably also answered in the, in the official presentation. The problem is now that it's gone, um, we don't have a backup, uh, of that one because that one answers a lot of questions how Shoppy will be a thing, how, um, the online services will be a thing. Um, yeah, it's... it's a little bit bad. [laughs] 00:06:52,244 --> 00:06:53,784 [Speaker 5] Yeah, I get that. 00:06:53,784 --> 00:07:00,044 [Leonie] Technically lost media, yes. 00:07:00,044 --> 00:07:01,364 [Speaker 5] Yeah, I get that too. 00:07:01,364 --> 00:07:01,464 [Leonie] Yeah. 00:07:01,464 --> 00:07:05,104 [Speaker 5] Too-da-loo. 00:07:05,104 --> 00:07:27,664 [Leonie] Um, let's see. Um... Hmm. Let's pick Kaiju. 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:33,004 [Leonie] Oh, someone did a re-upload. Great. 00:07:33,004 --> 00:07:33,683 [Speaker 6] Uh, hello? 00:07:33,683 --> 00:07:36,704 [Leonie] Hi. 00:07:36,704 --> 00:07:45,784 [Speaker 6] Oh, sorry. Uh, give me one second. Yeah, I just have one question. Is there any possibility where, 00:07:45,784 --> 00:08:03,764 [Speaker 6] um... And not to, like, just, uh, sort of ignore what's going on. But in just... In the sense that you talked about how you said there's no one else that can essentially do what Usagi did. Is there another way that we could just bring him back? Or is it like a indefinite he's gone for good? 00:08:03,764 --> 00:08:13,974 [Leonie] I think Usagi is gone for good. Um, he just, like, stepped down and, um, just... Yeah, that's it. I don't... Um, I think- 00:08:13,974 --> 00:08:13,974 [Speaker 6] Okay 00:08:13,974 --> 00:08:19,453 [Leonie] ... we can continue from there. [laughs] Um, yeah. 00:08:19,453 --> 00:08:27,164 [Speaker 6] Um, well, just a quick follow-up question. Is there any plans to at least just get someone else who could do his job? 00:08:27,164 --> 00:08:47,424 [Leonie] I'm not sure about this actually. Like, right now we're just a bunch of developers or moderators now, and Usagi did all the heavy lifting on the visual, um, part. So, um, yeah that's a pro- uh, problem. And no, the project is not dead. N- oh my god, no. [laughs] Why is everyone- 00:08:47,424 --> 00:08:47,934 [Speaker 6] Okay. All right, well, that's 00:08:47,934 --> 00:08:52,044 [Leonie] ... making such baseless claims? I hate it. 00:08:52,044 --> 00:08:54,324 [Speaker 6] All right. Well, that's my... That's it. Thank you. 00:08:54,324 --> 00:09:27,223 [Leonie] Yeah. Okay. Generally, rest assured, um, we have, um, a team that's still here and we will work on things. Um, we are also, um, about to shadow drop, um, another thing. Um, stay tuned on that one. Um, it's gonna be huge and we'll also solidify the idea that ISU is gonna happen. It's gonna happen, b- guys, don't worry. Um, 00:09:30,384 --> 00:09:36,204 [Leonie] okay, let's go. 00:09:36,204 --> 00:09:38,624 [Leonie] << Da-da-da-da-da-da-da 00:09:41,564 --> 00:09:50,024 [Leonie] >> Let's invite Brunu. 00:09:50,024 --> 00:10:19,884 [Speaker 7] Hi. So, uh, I wanna ask a few questions, uh, mainly how this affected the dev team, how it's affecting the dev team. Because, uh, it seems to me that y'all do... did care about, uh, Usagi Shade. And then what exactly happened to make Usagi Shade leave the project indefinitely? Like, did... Did... I hear... I saw-saw... I saw s... I saw someone said on the VIP chat that someone doxed him. I... Maybe he just... He- 00:10:19,884 --> 00:10:20,664 [Leonie] It was just- 00:10:20,664 --> 00:10:22,164 [Speaker 7] Maybe he just wait till he get less drama. 00:10:22,164 --> 00:11:18,804 [Leonie] Okay, so it's, um... It's actually quite easy. So, the timeline was that, um, I made a BlueSky account on... uh, for the official, uh... like, an official ISU thing. Um, that BlueSky account is still online. I didn't shut it down, uh, just because some trolls thought it was a good idea. Um, but, um... So there was, like, one person trying to, like, just being hateful in general. Like, the whole writing style just revolved around this, "Nyah-ha-ha-ha, uh, let's shut the project down." Um, and, um, I wasn't really a, a fan of that person. Um, so, um, that person just became, like, the number one harasser actually for the whole project because that person was posting baseless claims, um, all around, uh, the, um... the 00:11:18,804 --> 00:12:01,704 [Leonie] things we posted on, uh, on BlueSky. And even after trying to clear this all up, that person didn't stop and, um, was just, like, going nuts all over the place. Um, I brought this issue up to Usagi and, um, they, like, literally, um... yeah, just harassed Usagi all the way down. And that wasn't, that wasn't g- uh, a great experience for him. So, that put him in a really bad mental state, uh, to a point where he became like... It was really... I was really worried about his safety and the team as well. Um, 00:12:01,704 --> 00:12:32,964 [Leonie] so yeah, he just, like, went full offline mode now, um, just to be-... take a break from all this, uh, weird drama and all those, uh, claims, um, and accusations against him. Um, and even if we- when once we tried, um, speaking up about this and actually, um, figuring out and investigating all this, uh, stuff, um, and finding out that Usagi was just a fine guy, um, yeah, 00:12:32,964 --> 00:12:51,924 [Leonie] just, um, took a bad turn. And I hope, um, [laughs] and I hope that his talent will be, uh, from US anywhere else. But for now, he's just completely offline of social media, um, in the wild. Um, and I hope his wife cares for him. 00:12:51,924 --> 00:12:58,344 [Speaker 8] Uh, rest in peace, I guess. And how's... and is the mod team, like, good mentally? 00:12:58,344 --> 00:13:02,484 [Leonie] Usagi is probably just... Yeah. 00:13:02,484 --> 00:13:03,304 [Speaker 8] No, I understand about Usagi. 00:13:03,304 --> 00:13:05,404 [Leonie] In a bad mental state. 00:13:05,404 --> 00:13:09,824 [Speaker 8] Yeah, okay. I understand about Usagi, but I was wondering about the rest of y'all. You know, how are you doing? How are- 00:13:09,824 --> 00:13:11,834 [Leonie] The rest... Oh, the rest about us? 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:11,923 [Speaker 8] Yeah, the rest of you guys. 00:13:11,924 --> 00:13:41,864 [Leonie] Um, yeah, we actually just ordered a break from all of this. The whole team just said, "Okay, fuck it. The rest of the week we'll be doing nothing," um, because we just need a break from all of this. Also, like, um, the whole moderation was getting out of hand on the Discord server, which was also a thing we tried to fix, but as with any Discord server having growing pains, that doesn't really end well. Um, 00:13:41,864 --> 00:13:49,563 [Leonie] but yeah, we're trying to... We're trying our best to make, uh, ISU the best place on, uh, on earth. [laughs] 00:13:49,564 --> 00:13:59,624 [Speaker 8] [laughs] All right. Uh, thanks for answering me, and remember folks, never get famous on the internet. [laughs] 00:13:59,624 --> 00:14:02,684 [Leonie] [laughs] Okay, see ya, bud. 00:14:02,684 --> 00:14:04,984 [Speaker 8] Thanks, Larkin. Thanks, Larkin. See ya, bud. 00:14:04,984 --> 00:14:07,204 [Leonie] And now I'm inviting Yannic. 00:14:07,204 --> 00:14:17,303 [Speaker 9] // Editors note: this is me having a blackout lmao Okay, I'm sorry. I'm in the gym. I hope you can hear me. [laughs] 00:14:17,304 --> 00:14:19,744 [Leonie] Yes, I can hear you fine. 00:14:19,744 --> 00:14:22,024 [Speaker 9] Good. Um, 00:14:22,024 --> 00:14:31,044 [Speaker 9] yeah, first of all, [laughs] I, uh, just wanted to say, um, 00:14:31,044 --> 00:14:38,124 [Speaker 9] oh, sorry, I'm, I'm in the middle of something. [laughs] So, um, 00:14:38,124 --> 00:14:50,824 [Speaker 9] first of all, I wanted to, um, tell you guys that the project would work without a face, and 00:14:50,824 --> 00:15:00,604 [Speaker 9] it's easy, not. usagi launche or something. So I don't know what's, what's wrong with those people, but 00:15:00,604 --> 00:15:07,284 [Speaker 9] yeah. Um, other thing I had a question, um, 00:15:07,284 --> 00:15:10,204 [Speaker 9] how is... 00:15:10,204 --> 00:15:12,404 [Speaker 9] So, 00:15:12,404 --> 00:15:26,104 [Speaker 9] yeah, sorry, sorry, I, I don't remember my... Ah, fuck. It, it's easier to think of, of your, your stuff from the... on, on the... Like, I can't even speak English right now. So- 00:15:26,104 --> 00:15:26,864 [Leonie] Okay, wait. 00:15:26,864 --> 00:15:27,144 [Speaker 9] [laughs] 00:15:27,144 --> 00:15:29,984 [Leonie] I'm, I'm gonna move to the next guy, okay? 00:15:29,984 --> 00:15:34,824 [Speaker 9] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I write you something later. Um, I, I just DM you- 00:15:34,824 --> 00:15:34,874 [Leonie] Okay 00:15:34,874 --> 00:15:39,984 [Speaker 9] ... for the question, so. [laughs] 00:15:39,984 --> 00:15:45,644 [Leonie] Um, okay. Next guy, um, 00:15:45,644 --> 00:16:05,284 [Leonie] so someone said, um, first, what's gonna happen to the early supporter batch? That one's gonna stay. Um, I control the servers, um, and I also control the whole account system, um, and I always did. Um, so that's going to stay no matter what. Um, 00:16:05,284 --> 00:16:29,524 [Leonie] and the second is, can you ask Usagi for the presentation so you can re-upload it officially? Um, that's also an issue because I- we d- we don't have... we don't get a hold of Usagi anymore. Like, he just completely shut off his whole Discord and everything. There's no way to contact him anymore, so we have to do it on our own. Um, 00:16:29,524 --> 00:17:07,284 [Leonie] if someone has the presentation downloaded, I'm all fine with a re-upload because it's, um... because it should just work, um, regardless of, um, someone. Okay. I'm now moving, um, to the next person. Oliver Everest is going to be next. 00:17:07,304 --> 00:17:22,944 [Speaker 10] Hello? I'm, um... Is this working? Hello? 00:17:22,944 --> 00:17:25,844 [Leonie] Yes, this is working. 00:17:25,844 --> 00:18:07,404 [Speaker 10] Okay, so, um, um, um, I'm Oliver Everest, and, um, um, I just wanna ask some few questions, um, as... at the moment. Um, I have seen a lot of people in, uh, voice chats, um, mostly in the games, uh, like playing games, and also st- other stuff, and even, like, on screens. Is there gonna be, like, um, um, gonna be a crackdown on [laughs] like, like, like kind of a crackdown on what's go- on, like that full thing? And is there also gonna be, like, significant, um, um, moderation fixes, um, um, throughout, throughout December and beyond? Like, any moderation, um, fixes or moderation, like- 00:18:07,844 --> 00:19:14,813 [Leonie] I think, um, the main issue about moderation was that we were really overwhelmed with the amount of tickets. Like, if you look at the... If you could see the amount of tickets we currently o- have open, it's probably, like, in the hundreds, even thousands. So, um, that's, like, really hefty for, um, a team of six moderators. Um, I'm about to build, um, a tool that allows... That will be a centralized thing, so people can just send their concerns there, um, things that they want, um, from support. And this is going to be the only thing forward, because we ha- also have things. We have a support email. We have the Discord, uh, things. And it's getting out of hand really quick. And, um, we're currently testing a tool internally to just make, um, development and moderation easier, um, that way so we have everything in one controlled space. And can easily- 00:19:14,813 --> 00:19:21,283 [Speaker 10] Yeah, because it's like, hmm, because of the recent issues that happened. And also, I am not AI, by the way. Uh, people think that I am. 00:19:21,283 --> 00:19:22,063 [Leonie] [laughs] 00:19:22,063 --> 00:19:22,484 [Speaker 10] Please note. 00:19:22,484 --> 00:19:23,244 [Leonie] Yeah. 00:19:23,244 --> 00:19:23,944 [Speaker 10] I am not. 00:19:23,944 --> 00:19:31,504 [Leonie] That's, that's the thing. Um, yeah. Also, about, um... What was the first question? 00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:38,964 [Leonie] I forgot. Um, one was moderation. Help me out on this. 00:19:38,964 --> 00:19:39,033 [Speaker 10] [laughs] 00:19:39,033 --> 00:19:45,904 [Leonie] You ask it. I forgot the question. 00:19:46,624 --> 00:19:49,563 [Leonie] Hello? 00:19:49,563 --> 00:19:52,604 [Leonie] Okay. That's, 00:19:52,604 --> 00:19:57,283 [Leonie] that's not great. Ah. 00:19:59,484 --> 00:20:06,244 [Leonie] Yeah, that one. That person left. Okay. Um, 00:20:06,244 --> 00:20:08,283 [Leonie] the cakey day. 00:20:08,283 --> 00:20:23,464 [Speaker 11] Okay, so I have two questions. One re- one related and one completely unrelated. All right, so the first question is, like, what's your stance on the whole situation? 00:20:23,464 --> 00:20:27,884 [Leonie] The whole stance on the situation, um, 00:20:27,884 --> 00:20:30,584 [Leonie] I think 00:20:30,584 --> 00:20:46,783 [Leonie] it's sad that we lost a talent. Like, it's like losing a big fr- uh, be- um, like a friend. Um, but at the same time, um, I think just go on. The show must go on, I think. 00:20:46,783 --> 00:20:47,504 [Speaker 11] Mm-hmm. 00:20:47,504 --> 00:20:48,203 [Leonie] So- 00:20:48,204 --> 00:20:53,924 [Speaker 11] Uh, and my second question, completely unrelated. What should I play on my 3DS? 00:20:53,924 --> 00:21:02,063 [Leonie] Um, wait, I actually recommended a game earlier about this one. 00:21:02,063 --> 00:21:07,464 [Leonie] Um, what was it? Um, I can recommend Kirby S- Kirby Triple Deluxe. 00:21:07,464 --> 00:21:09,233 [Speaker 11] Oh, I'm gonna have to get that one. 00:21:09,233 --> 00:21:10,524 [Leonie] That's an amazing game. 00:21:10,524 --> 00:21:10,574 [Speaker 11] All right, thank you. 00:21:10,574 --> 00:21:13,824 [Leonie] I played it through in a whole day. [laughs] Bye. 00:21:13,824 --> 00:21:18,004 [Speaker 11] Um, bye. 00:21:18,004 --> 00:21:19,104 [Leonie] Um, 00:21:24,043 --> 00:21:30,464 [Leonie] and now we are going on with Mr. Generosity. 00:21:32,204 --> 00:22:04,164 [Speaker 4] Hello. So, I have just, uh, two questions. One of 'em is basically where does, like, eh, this moderation thing stand right now? So, eh, basically, you, uh, already confirmed that this was just, like, everything got a little too out of hand because you were o- o- overwhelmed. So, what will be, like, the criteria? What will be, like, the next plans that you have for expanding this moderation team? What will be... What wi- will you be looking for in next moderators? 00:22:04,164 --> 00:22:21,964 [Leonie] I'm not sure about this one. Um, I think we closed the search for moderation. I think we have, like, six very competent mods. Is it six? [laughs] I don't know. Um, but, um, yeah, we are just 00:22:21,964 --> 00:22:38,944 [Leonie] enough people to handle all of this. We just have to organize it a little bit better. Because we have, like, a few different places where, um, moderation, um, tickets are going, and that's not great. 00:22:38,944 --> 00:22:57,624 [Speaker 4] Got it. All right, and now moving on to the next thing. Eh, I just wondered, basically, like, seeking some reassurance that basically, li- uh, the, um, whole team. Like, the whole development team and everyone is just, like, on board with this. Like, eh, are they just still on board with the project in general? No one's, like- 00:22:57,624 --> 00:22:57,634 [Leonie] Yes 00:22:57,634 --> 00:23:02,244 [Speaker 4] ... seeking to leave or, like, lost mot- motivation over what happened? 00:23:02,244 --> 00:23:14,024 [Leonie] Um, some people, um, just ordered a break, and I'm totally there with it. Um, I will be gone for the whole weekend, so I will just 00:23:14,024 --> 00:23:41,724 [Leonie] uninstall Discord off my phone and just do whatever I feel like. Um, some people will probably do the same. Just not with uninstalling Discord, probably, from the phones, but, um, that's their decision. Um, yeah, and then I don't know. After n- um, and then next week, we'll just evaluate everything and, um, figure it out on our own. Um, 00:23:41,724 --> 00:23:51,104 [Leonie] yeah, I don't know. Um, it's... Um, we will, um, just, um 00:23:51,104 --> 00:23:55,844 [Leonie] And, um, no one's going to leave. 00:23:55,844 --> 00:24:11,324 [Speaker 4] All right. Eh, I think I can speak with for most here that we do expect the project to still go through. And, um, yeah, we expect a lot from you guys. Uh, obviously, no pressure. Like, it's totally fine if you need some extra time. 00:24:11,324 --> 00:24:11,484 [Leonie] [laughs] 00:24:11,484 --> 00:24:20,844 [Speaker 4] And, and like to take them o- and out of things, but, eh, yeah, just, um... Yeah, um, at least my faith is still in the project. 00:24:20,844 --> 00:24:20,904 [Leonie] Yeah. 00:24:20,904 --> 00:24:22,624 [Speaker 4] That's everything I wanted to say. 00:24:22,624 --> 00:24:32,432 [Leonie] Also, Nathan just woke up. [laughs]Hooray, Nathan is alive. 00:24:32,432 --> 00:24:39,871 [Leonie] Um, let's see. Nathan is, um, our new, um, 00:24:39,871 --> 00:24:49,371 [Leonie] like, CEO, pretty much. [laughs] Yeah. Um, he's, like, in charge of everything now. Um, 00:24:49,371 --> 00:24:56,191 [Leonie] okay, let's see what we have. 00:24:56,192 --> 00:25:16,912 [Leonie] So many people. Take a look first. Okay. 00:25:16,912 --> 00:25:28,452 [Leonie] Oh, Nathan can join a Q&A, just has to q- request it because I can't really search here and just invite people in. Discord is a little bit weird about this. 00:25:40,032 --> 00:25:40,152 [Leonie] I 00:25:51,052 --> 00:25:58,312 [Leonie] accept message questions. Um, 00:25:58,312 --> 00:26:03,932 [Leonie] someone said, "Will the scope of the project change?" No, definitely not. 00:26:03,932 --> 00:26:11,932 [Leonie] The plans are there and we are just doing it. Hmm. 00:26:16,252 --> 00:26:21,012 [Leonie] Oh my God, this is getting out of hand. Uh, 00:26:21,012 --> 00:26:22,371 [Leonie] also worse... 00:26:27,992 --> 00:26:45,851 [Leonie] I will probably just enable [laughs] slow mo. Yeah, we need a lo- longer slow mo over there. There are a lot of security concerns on how people's data is handled. Are you able to comment on that? Yes. Um, 00:26:45,851 --> 00:26:54,772 [Leonie] we think privacy is a fundamental human right and that shouldn't change. Um, 00:26:54,772 --> 00:27:08,052 [Leonie] if there's... So far there, um, there were a few people testing, um, the limits of the account system and, um, 00:27:08,052 --> 00:27:20,192 [Leonie] that's, um... Yeah, that has been tested really well. Um, we even fixed a few bugs, um, and that's, that's cool. Um, 00:27:20,192 --> 00:27:51,452 [Leonie] also we are hosted, um, in Germany, which has, like, um, also things like, um, GDPR and something like that. Um, and it's all very much secured behind, uh, a VPN and a few firewalls, so there's, like, no way, uh, anything could leave the server if it ever wanted. Um... 00:27:51,452 --> 00:28:13,591 [Leonie] There's a Twitter post claiming that the ESO Network stores people's retro achievements login information directly in a JSON file. Um, not in a JSON file. In the database. Um, 00:28:13,591 --> 00:28:34,812 [Leonie] the problem is, um, there is no actual way to go and encrypt that because, um, it would have be- it should be one way, but, um, the problem with one-way encryption is you still have to know what's in there in order to just check it against something. So, um, 00:28:34,812 --> 00:28:48,831 [Leonie] yeah, if, um, any tokens will leak, just reset them. Um, it shouldn't be an issue really. I mean, Discord has the same issues. [laughs] // editors note: there will be no unsecure token storage. these api keys are not acessible in any way 00:28:48,831 --> 00:28:49,871 [Leonie] So, 00:28:51,091 --> 00:28:58,172 [Leonie] Datenschutz-Grundverordnung, yes. Um, 00:28:58,172 --> 00:29:09,911 [Leonie] let's see. Yeah, I think I read enough of the chat. 00:29:09,911 --> 00:29:26,411 [Leonie] [laughs] Let's invite, uh, Fighting Gimmick. Hello? 00:29:26,411 --> 00:29:40,871 [Leonie] Okay, nothing is happening. 00:29:40,871 --> 00:29:43,411 [Leonie] Um, 00:29:43,411 --> 00:29:50,452 [Leonie] then invi- let's invite Jeez. 00:29:50,452 --> 00:29:50,811 [Leonie] Hello? 00:29:50,812 --> 00:30:14,572 [Speaker 12] Yo. Yeah, so yeah, I have some questions. This is before all the drama. I was just w- while watching the video. Um, so about the social media aspect, I just think... I just wanna make sure that the moderation on that's gonna be, like... Fort Knox, like, very high key, because I can see that getting out of hand and getting, like, very, like, crazy really fast with the social media aspect of it. 00:30:14,572 --> 00:30:18,870 [Leonie] Um, sorry, I didn't, uh, catch the question. [laughs] 00:30:18,871 --> 00:30:27,831 [Speaker 12] Oh, my fault. No, it's like, are you guys, like, gonna be on top of the moderation for the social media part? Because with images and all that, I can see a lot of people, like, posting crazy stuff. 00:30:27,831 --> 00:30:54,252 [Leonie] Yeah, definitely. Um, like, um, there will be a moderation system where people can report bad things. And we will also use, um...... and an automated system to filter bad content. Um, but in the end, um, I think it's just better to, um, have a human moderator looking at it, which will always be the case, no matter what. 00:30:54,252 --> 00:30:59,972 [Speaker 13] Okay, so you guys are gonna, like, hire, like, more moderators for that to look 24/7 or, like, what's up with that? 00:30:59,972 --> 00:31:01,592 [Leonie] Huh? 00:31:01,592 --> 00:31:06,452 [Speaker 13] Are you guys gonna get, like... So you guys are gonna have, like, human moderators, like, on the clock, looking at the stuff? 00:31:06,452 --> 00:31:12,372 [Leonie] Yes, yes. It's will- it will always be a human moderator in the end. 00:31:12,372 --> 00:31:18,272 [Speaker 13] Okay. All right, all right. [clicks tongue] Yeah, got- good there. 00:31:18,332 --> 00:31:22,762 [Leonie] Okay. Hi, Elder Monkey. Long time, not seen. [laughs] I've been taking a nap so far. 00:31:22,762 --> 00:31:38,152 [Nathan] Hello, hello. So, yeah, I, I went to bed about four hours ago at 3:30 in the morning. It's, uh, 8:30 in the morning now. I've got the math wrong. But 00:31:38,152 --> 00:32:11,852 [Nathan] I thought it'd be important to address some things. Uh, [laughs] I, I see that Usagi made an official announcement where we were discussing things quite a bit. And the very first thing I want to say is that I am extremely sorry about just the entire storm of things that have happened in the past few days. Um, this is on behalf of the team, moderation, a lot of complete nonsense that has slipped through. Um, I know there's a lot of people in a lot of communities that were hurt. And 00:32:11,852 --> 00:32:30,752 [Nathan] just there's nothing... [laughs] The whole chain of command broke and we just weren't prepared for that. So, I, I, I do apologize. I'm sorry people weren't entirely satisfied with what Usagi said. Um, and I, I'm, I know there's a lot of people that, that did just want to see Usagi and that just wanted the end of the project. But 00:32:30,752 --> 00:33:00,132 [Nathan] for many reasons, for personal reasons about getting his name shared everywhere, about... You know, whether valid or not, I, I understand his reason for stepping down. It wasn't just, you know, "Oh, I got, you know, bullied a little bit." Like, when you go on Twitter and see your name posted with, like, a million view tweet and everywhere on, like, places you go on the internet, it is like... [laughs] It's a crazy experience. I don't, I don't blame him at all. I'm sorry. I just wanted 00:33:00,132 --> 00:33:00,282 [Speaker 15] [laughs] 00:33:00,282 --> 00:33:03,472 [Nathan] ... 'cause I'm a little bit sleepy. But 00:33:03,472 --> 00:33:12,612 [Nathan] to address, like, the important stuff, to, uh, avoid the yappits. And that's all the yap that I wanted to do for the people who needed it. 00:33:12,612 --> 00:34:23,292 [Nathan] As of right now, um, if the people would want to support it, I am fully, um... I want to be fully on track with bringing ISU out to be an actual project still. I want everyone to be assured that the art direction, the design, the... even the motion graphics are something that Usagi, you know, he, he brought the original idea to life. He's done amazing work on the visual side. He's done w- great work garnering a, a community. And I, I hope to see him interact sometime again, if he can recover. But there is... We have an amazing team. We're willing to invite more people. We're willing to be more open about development. We will consider more development paths. And we don't want anyone to be nervous about security of our Discord, of our potential social features, about anything. Um, there's a few things that I want to address about... I'd say there's so many sh- [laughs] A lot of things. First of all, when it comes to the code base, since that is a little bit important right now. There's like things going on about AI, about 00:34:23,292 --> 00:36:07,132 [Nathan] a bunch of nonsense. Um, you can look through the code bases of the lead developer who has had most of the AI accusations grow, um, thrown against him. Thankfully, he's hired an artist to redo his profile picture. He, he, he's not a native English speaker, so he's been using ChatGPT for, um, you know, his little posts and stuff. But there is no vibe coding going on. There was another developer who we have on the database. He hasn't been active for a little bit, but he has, like, some little mentions about AI in his, his, um, his GitHub. And I understand there's some, some concerns as we have a large artist community and a large amount of people who have either been negatively affected by AI and everything. And I'm, I'm really sorry that we have someone that has, you know, something that indicates that they use AI. And I totally get that. Um, as someone who's both a developer and a designer, I can see that there, there is an in-between. And someone who's working professionally, he works at a large data company and they give him, you know, cursor subscriptions, which are AI tools. And in his personal life, he maybe uses it as a companion, but he has not touched any code base with AI. He, he's only done database, which you interact with largely through small code snippets and such. And more so a front end on a website managing the database. So, please, I, I don't want anyone to discredit the incredibly hard work of our developers by saying, "Oh, it's vibe coded. It's, it's a mess." Uh, you, you can look at our, our developers' resumes, and you could probably figure that out yourself that it's not true. Um, geez, there's [yawns] a few more. Um, 00:36:07,132 --> 00:36:09,672 [Nathan] ch- ch... 00:36:09,672 --> 00:36:11,462 [Nathan] Ah, there's... 00:36:11,462 --> 00:36:15,212 [Leonie] You want to r- uh, rather talk, talk to someone or- 00:36:15,212 --> 00:36:15,222 [Nathan] Um.. 00:36:15,222 --> 00:36:17,172 [Leonie] ... read the chat? [laughs] 00:36:17,172 --> 00:36:46,551 [Nathan] There's... I, [laughs] I'm reading the chat. I think I... Well, the main thing I want right now before I invite someone on is just to not be overly concerned. I... For those of you who don't know me as well as Usagi, which is totally fair, um, I'm Nathan. I... [laughs] Unfortunately, after that, my full legal name is on the presentation, if there's any wrongdoers who want to [laughs] do anything. But-Yeah, I've been on the project since 00:36:46,551 --> 00:37:35,011 [Nathan] about the time it started, um, about three months ago. I've been designing things since, like, pretty much th- a... A little bit after the very first thing was placed. I kind of changed the entire design aspect from what you saw in the presentation to the Misa UI thing. I- I did the entire dual-screen design system, um, worked with icons and while I don't want to take credit away from Usagi, I- I feel like I've contributed quite a bit to the visual, uh, appeal that you see so far. And I would like to continue doing so. And I- I- I- I do trust that I and the team can continue that. And, um, uh, sorry, you [laughs] you had to go through all these things, you know, see some- some pretty rough announcements, but I hope you guys can trust me 00:37:35,011 --> 00:37:53,312 [Nathan] to at least figure some things out in the meantime while we, uh, understand some things. You know, online projects from the small creators can always be a little bit- a little bit tough. But, uh, is there... I'll look through the chat real quick and then we can invite someone on if we need 00:37:53,312 --> 00:37:53,912 [Leonie] Okay. 00:37:53,912 --> 00:38:06,452 [Nathan] Which we probably won't need. 00:38:06,452 --> 00:38:16,051 [Nathan] There's a lot of... 00:38:16,051 --> 00:38:26,310 [Leonie] Um, I marked an important one. That's ... If you click that. [laughs] Yeah, it's going way too fast. Um- 00:38:26,312 --> 00:38:27,192 [Nathan] Yeah. 00:38:27,192 --> 00:38:28,890 [Leonie] Wait a minute. 00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:29,611 [Nathan] I- I see. 00:38:36,011 --> 00:38:36,812 [Nathan] That's like- 00:38:36,812 --> 00:38:38,062 [Nathan] Okay. I- I can answer these and- 00:38:38,062 --> 00:38:40,772 [Leonie] ... insanely fast. [laughs] 00:38:40,772 --> 00:38:47,752 [Nathan] I- I got it, don't worry. I can answer these and then we can invite someone onto the stage. 00:38:47,752 --> 00:39:21,991 [Nathan] So, the first thing is, how is ISU going to move on forward? Is, um, Shade's absence gonna harm the project? I've seen a few people ask about the visuals and everything. Um, I can assure you that for the past, like, month or so that we've been working on the visuals and giving him assets, we have a great team that's really dialed into, like, the aesthetics of ISU. Um, if you ever, like, E Channel, like most of the Shoppy pages, if you liked, um... Again, like any of the dual screen versions, we have team members that have been working on that ourselves. Um, 00:39:21,991 --> 00:39:29,151 [Nathan] Usagi will be missed in our- our developer team, and I'm sure by- by many of you. But, um, 00:39:29,152 --> 00:41:11,892 [Nathan] don't- don't worry about any sort of visual, um, degradation. I- I mean, I also am an after-effects motion artist and I did some of the, um, visual mock-ups, but I don't know if I can replicate his style quite as well, because he... I'll- I'll give him that, that he is quite talented there. But ISU as a... as a project, it will be perfectly fine, assuming the community gives it the support that it needs. Um, we will probably be a little more low profile for a little while and work on just getting out a necessary alpha that's far more functional and that matches the- the aesthetics. Um, I understand there's been, uh, concerns about community safety and worry about the database and all. First of all, it's not st- no- nothing stored in like a JSON file in some, like, crazy database. It's a... I trust Leone with the backend security. Um, and no, we're- we're definitely... we're locking down on account security. But if you're still not trusting it, that's totally fine. But we're- we're scaling back on some of the scale of the- the launch day secu- um, online features. Like, we don't... We will try to get out what we can. We'll try to get basic, um, ARIA integration as well as some friend support, as some of these things are pretty, like, industry standard. Like, they're not revolutionary, we're not reinventing the wheel. But we're gonna scale back a little bit for the time being to really get out the core ISU experience with a few of the online features to show that both we're serious and that it can be very cool when implemented. So, that's- that's the main plan. Are there pa- plans for the project to be open sourced by the time of the full-ish release? Now, of all time, I would consider going closer to either open source 00:41:11,892 --> 00:41:50,952 [Nathan] of some components, open source of everything that you download on Android. I'm not sure yet. Um, we'll have to figure that as a team. But I'm- I'm a little bit more open to open sourcing at least some components that we're developing, such as, like, the specific dual screen functionality that weighs us, just like custom implemented. There's a lot of really cool tech that we're using for ISU, some of it which has been implemented, some of them- some of which hasn't yet. So, I'm not fully opposed to open sourcing that. Like, obviously for database security, not every function call for every, like, end of a stack can be. But- but that is more of a consideration now as I know trust is like a main factor to worry about. 00:41:50,952 --> 00:42:24,292 [Nathan] How will you handle the current moderation issues? The Discord is kind of on fire as of right now. Well, right now, our biggest bastion of defense against getting a worse Discord chat is if you look at the top, joins are paused for ISU, because there's been several forums on 4chan [laughs] for some reason, I forgot that's still a platform, saying that they'll raid us and there's like hundreds of people there. And even more people that if they join back on alt or anything might cause a- a crazy stir. So, 00:42:24,292 --> 00:42:41,832 [Nathan] our moderation team has been working amazing. Um, we're gonna try cracking down more. But I think most people can see that it's leveled out, minus like a few people here and there. It's leveled out for the most part and I think most people are a little bit more safe now. Um, so, I really have to work on 00:42:41,832 --> 00:42:55,584 [Nathan] getting through people that were negatively affected by the craziness that was just happening. But-I- I- I promise you as well, like, moderation in the Discord will be improving, moderation on the actual network will be improving. Um, 00:42:55,584 --> 00:43:22,344 [Nathan] everything, like, the full stack will be, uh, getting worked on, I promise you that. And is there a d- detailed-ish roadmap ahead in terms of EC progress? We were just ... Well before all of this, we were gonna have a weekend call with the developers to actually establish that. We don't have that yet and, um, I can't promise any dates now. The original, like, timeline-ish was like Q2 2026. 00:43:22,344 --> 00:43:32,384 [Nathan] Maybe like spring but I- I can't give any date now. Please- I don't want it to be like we're getting it done in like one month guys, I promise it'll be easy, um, when it might not be very easy but- 00:43:32,384 --> 00:43:35,764 [Leonie] I mean that's how development ultimately works. You can't just- 00:43:35,764 --> 00:43:36,084 [Nathan] Yeah, yeah 00:43:36,084 --> 00:43:43,364 [Leonie] ... release on time. That's never going to happen in any, uh, project. 00:43:43,364 --> 00:43:46,044 [Nathan] Yeah, that is, um ... 00:43:48,244 --> 00:43:53,384 [Leonie] Also talk about call board. Um, call board is going to be fun. [laughs] 00:43:53,384 --> 00:43:56,844 [Nathan] Leoni, not [laughs] Not- not yet, not right now. 00:43:56,844 --> 00:43:57,074 [Leonie] Not yet? 00:43:57,074 --> 00:43:57,984 [Nathan] Not top priority. 00:43:57,984 --> 00:44:03,163 [Leonie] [laughs]. It's top priority to get everything in, uh, under control. 00:44:03,163 --> 00:44:04,304 [Nathan] But 00:44:04,304 --> 00:44:07,364 [Nathan] I see. If you mean just... I get it. 00:44:07,364 --> 00:44:11,864 [Leonie] Yeah, we have to like get linear and everything working. 00:44:11,864 --> 00:44:47,984 [Nathan] Yeah, we're- we're getting a much better stack right now for managing support with some in-house stuff and then using, um, some better project management tools so we can not just deal with, uh, endless support tickets. If you're waiting on a refund or you just have other issues, I'm- I'm sorry if we haven't gotten to you but like there's- we've made in-house, uh, memes about the massive amounts of support tickets we've gotten because it's like, woof, it's pretty bad. But, um, that- that's mostly what I wanted to- to say. Um, 00:44:47,984 --> 00:44:52,964 [Nathan] if anyone wants to come on the stage, I- I'd be willing to answer some questions. 00:44:52,964 --> 00:44:55,884 [Leonie] Yep, right now we have D. Obama. 00:44:55,884 --> 00:45:03,924 [Nathan] What is that profile? 00:45:03,924 --> 00:45:05,684 [Leonie] [laughs] 00:45:05,684 --> 00:45:06,924 [Nathan] She got Obama high. 00:45:06,924 --> 00:45:07,564 [Leonie] Obama. 00:45:08,644 --> 00:45:13,524 [Leonie] But yeah, that person. Oh, hi. 00:45:13,524 --> 00:45:13,784 [Nathan] Hello. 00:45:13,784 --> 00:45:33,084 [Speaker 5] Hi. So sorry, I- I was just eating. Um, so I had a few questions. I heard that, um, Pretendo had reached out or something like that for, like, collab. I wanted to know if that was true and how that was going? 00:45:33,084 --> 00:46:06,844 [Nathan] Um, Pretendo has reached out to some capacity. We don't have official bridges developed or anything yet and Pretendo is a very, like, native hardware, um, based platform. We don't have plans to have, like, full, like, the whole back end is Pretendo but we may have bridges to, like, online statuses for friends or like you know this person from Pretendo, along those lines and we'll explore other things further. But right now we don't have, like, a full back end built out for it so that's all I can really say on Pretendo. 00:46:06,844 --> 00:46:29,224 [Speaker 5] All right, that's awesome. Um, and my other question is I know that everything is really crazy and in the air right now but there- there was a thing saying that we were gonna get an alpha from like the 25th to the 28th, is that still an idea or are we going to have to wait until you guys all kind of regroup and get your guys' gears back into motion? 00:46:29,224 --> 00:46:56,444 [Nathan] Well, our- our lead developer, um, Wizzo has- has been like working around the clock. This man is truly unaffected by- by his social surroundings which is amazing. So you guys should be getting a- a much improved alpha soon. After that release we might be working more on larger changes rather than like... Because something like V1 and V2 were fairly incremental updates, this is a- a little bit larger. Um, but we'll- we'll be 00:46:56,444 --> 00:47:16,284 [Nathan] focusing on... There's going to be a little bit more time in between alphas I imagine for, you know, actually showing that we're kind of serious about this. But we will be getting another alpha probably within the next few days. I don't have a 100% date but we have a lot of development, like we have 90 commits in the Disc- uh, the GitHub since then so it's been pretty good. 00:47:16,284 --> 00:47:30,663 [Speaker 5] Awesome. Well, that's all I can think of to ask. I just wanted to quickly say thank you so much for hearing me out and thank you for continuing this project. We all believe in you guys and, you know, good luck in this future. 00:47:30,663 --> 00:47:32,184 [Nathan] Thank you so much. I appreciate that. 00:47:32,184 --> 00:47:34,524 [Speaker 5] You're very welcome. Have a good day you guys. 00:47:34,524 --> 00:47:40,604 [Nathan] You too. 00:47:40,604 --> 00:47:47,624 [Leonie] Uh, I will then continue with, um, our boy Thick Daddy. [laughs] 00:47:47,624 --> 00:47:48,744 [Nathan] Oh, this guy again. 00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:52,324 [Leonie] [laughs] 00:47:52,324 --> 00:47:59,804 [Speaker 16] Hey, it's great to be back on the stage. Um, I might sound a little different because I'm at work right now so, um, I do apologize for the voice quality. 00:47:59,804 --> 00:48:05,874 [Nathan] Mm-hmm. Oh, you're good. I'm on a laptop at my- my family's house because this happened over Thanksgiving but probably not much better. 00:48:05,874 --> 00:48:16,964 [Speaker 16] Big jerk, Thick Dad. Okay. Um, so I think my most pressing question I want to ask first is so after all this situation basically with, 00:48:16,964 --> 00:48:21,424 [Speaker 16] um, um, Usagi, um, going forward 00:48:21,424 --> 00:48:42,144 [Speaker 16] how are, like, how are you guys gonna like res- like basically like respond or basically like what- what's going to be your like action plan like if something like this happens again? Like Nathan, like you basically have yourself like a target on your back now that you're- you're the new head because I can imagine people are just going to scout and look for something to use against you so what's going to be the plan going forward? 00:48:42,144 --> 00:48:58,596 [Nathan] Yeah, I mean I think I definitely am, uh, I'm a little bit younger than Usagi and I don't have nearly as extensive as a potential online background. I'm sure people can find me saying like-There's actually [laughs], I can't really think of a lot. But, um, 00:48:58,596 --> 00:49:20,936 [Nathan] I- I don't... The- the main goal is to avoid anything. I mean, like, I- I- I want to show that I am genuinely trying to be respectful th- to everyone. I don't... H- h- if something like that happens to me, then that's just an extremely bad Shane and we'll have to reconsider a lot of things. But I- I don't have a good game plan. Like, I- I wouldn't want to just 00:49:20,936 --> 00:49:26,256 [Nathan] PR it out. Like, there's no... Um, 00:49:26,336 --> 00:49:43,196 [Nathan] I- I- I wouldn't know what to do, because you can't just like, be like, "Oh, it's- it's nothing, guys," if- if something ever happens. But yeah, I- I don't know exactly what to say, but I- I hope that- that my- my record shows more than, like, anything else, that I'm not really as 00:49:43,196 --> 00:49:49,496 [Nathan] online or as, you know, prone to that happening to me. But 00:49:49,496 --> 00:49:58,656 [Nathan] yeah, we'll- we'll hope... The- the- the best hope is that, um, you know, we just have a good online community from now on and nothing 00:49:58,656 --> 00:50:05,396 [Nathan] crazy happening again. Or else I would really lose faith for a- a lot of people. So, that's what I would say. 00:50:05,396 --> 00:50:25,476 [Speaker 16] My next question, like, is more so just to clarify, um, with... 'Cause there's like the base edition, there's like the $5 premium edition that, like, when releases. So, um, so the first part of that, so anyone who's donated, are they automatically getting the premium edition when it comes out? Or do you have to pay for, like, another, like, you know, $5 for that, basically? 00:50:25,476 --> 00:50:48,676 [Nathan] Um, we- it will... So the- the, you will get, if you've donated, um, I'm, I- I haven't fully communicated with, communicated with Usagi on how the Ko-fi is being managed. But I'm not sure if we're refunding people and then, you know, having people like, re-bu... I don't know exactly what's going on there. But 00:50:48,676 --> 00:51:04,476 [Nathan] yes, it, uh... The- the previous plan and what will still happen if we, if we raise any money, which I don't want to raise too much money before we have more- more progress, but is that if you buy, like, a supporter pass or like the $5 thing on Ko-fi, you get premium on launch. Like that's- that's the thing, so... 00:51:04,476 --> 00:51:05,845 [Speaker 16] Mm-hmm. 00:51:05,845 --> 00:51:05,876 [Nathan] Yeah, I don't know. 00:51:05,876 --> 00:51:26,576 [Speaker 16] And the second one about the premium. So, there was a thing about how, like, um, on premium you can use, like... 'Cause it says you can use it like a custom background, but in the base one, you can also buy a custom background anyway. So when you mean custom background in the premium edition, do you mean like you upload your own custom background? Or... Just- just some clarity on that one. 00:51:26,576 --> 00:51:31,396 [Nathan] Um, yeah. So the- the main thing that we were, um, 00:51:31,396 --> 00:52:26,956 [Nathan] thinking about with- with themes and stuff is that we'll have... It's a little bit strange. I was thinking of almost like a confliction, because if we're having, you know, the shop thing where there's the ability for people to sell themes, even if there's gonna be a lot of them free, like, it's weird if you could only buy those as a pro member. So we're- we're considering that. But um, it may be a system of having access to the free themes or most of like the- the more in-depth theming functionality on the pro version, while you have like a dark mode, light mode. Um, so maybe more- more tuned themes that are still fairly basic on the free version when... Yeah, like you- you probably wouldn't be able to upload your own stuff. But we don't have anything concrete on that, um, so I hope to clarify that soon because I- I'm personally, um, not sure entirely what the- the, um, differences will be on like the theming side of that. 00:52:26,956 --> 00:52:40,176 [Speaker 16] Okay. Um, I had another question but can't remember what it was. But I might as well ask this one. Um, so I've been very eager to hear about the fish button progress. What's, um, what's- what's the fish button gonna do? 00:52:40,176 --> 00:52:43,056 [Nathan] The f... Leon are you going to say about it? 00:52:43,056 --> 00:52:43,486 [Speaker 16] Oh, the fish- 00:52:43,486 --> 00:52:44,046 [Nathan] Um, someone- 00:52:44,046 --> 00:52:44,166 [Speaker 16] The fish button? 00:52:44,166 --> 00:52:55,456 [Nathan] Okay, that's a running gag. Um, someone brought up a joke, um, about that we, uh, should implement a fish button. I find it- I find it totally stupid, but yeah 00:52:55,456 --> 00:52:57,116 [Nathan] [laughs]. 00:52:57,116 --> 00:52:57,296 [Speaker 16] [laughs] 00:52:57,296 --> 00:53:05,126 [Nathan] Nathan, what's your opinion on this? Uh, it's... Development for the fish button is underway as of right now. 00:53:05,126 --> 00:53:06,296 [Speaker 16] [laughs]. 00:53:06,296 --> 00:53:07,856 [Nathan] Oh, I see. 00:53:07,856 --> 00:53:11,505 [Speaker 16] Can I use the fish button underwater? Okay, I'm joking [laughs]. 00:53:11,505 --> 00:53:12,016 [Nathan] [laughs] 00:53:12,016 --> 00:53:23,236 [Speaker 16] I guess my final question is, uh, can I add you guys when Easter comes out? I asked this before but, well, with, um, Usagi, but he's gone now. So, I'm gonna ask again [laughs]. Can I add you guys when it comes out? 00:53:23,236 --> 00:53:30,126 [Nathan] Okay [laughs]. Yeah, I think Usagi said, uh, "Yeah, you will be able to do with the- the friends feature." You know what? Sure. 00:53:30,126 --> 00:53:30,856 [Speaker 16] Can I add you guys? 00:53:30,856 --> 00:53:36,776 [Nathan] I- um, you- you submitted a mod application and I was actually almost close to- to granting it to you. Unfortunately, we've already been received that. 00:53:36,776 --> 00:53:39,476 [Speaker 16] Oh, oh wow. That was almost a mistake. Almost a mistake. 00:53:39,476 --> 00:53:46,096 [Nathan] I- I know, that was almost a- a critical flaw. That would have cascaded into the- something insane. But I- 00:53:46,096 --> 00:53:46,325 [Speaker 16] Nathan, um... 00:53:46,325 --> 00:53:48,106 [Nathan] I'm not sure. Yeah, why not? 00:53:48,106 --> 00:53:57,476 [Speaker 16] I got a- I got an idea. What's your, um, opinion on giving every chirper, um, some... its own little voice? 00:53:57,476 --> 00:53:58,696 [Nathan] Giving every chirper a voice? 00:53:58,696 --> 00:54:14,226 [Speaker 16] Yeah. So like when someone sends you a message and the notification comes in, then, um, you can just set a- so the user can set a voice. So, um, custom notification sound, kind of like that. Like when you're actually- 00:54:14,226 --> 00:54:14,466 [Nathan] Oh, I'm sure we could figure out the notifications 00:54:14,466 --> 00:54:16,816 [Speaker 16] ... sending messages, it will go like, "Be-be-bo". 00:54:16,816 --> 00:54:20,756 [Nathan] Well, I don't... Maybe. We'll... [laughs]. 00:54:20,756 --> 00:54:21,126 [Speaker 16] Yeah. 00:54:21,126 --> 00:54:24,766 [Nathan] I think we'll think about that. 00:54:24,766 --> 00:54:28,956 [Speaker 16] That would be funny. 00:54:28,956 --> 00:54:30,516 [Speaker 16] Well, 00:54:30,516 --> 00:54:34,456 [Speaker 16] uh, I mean, that'll be it for me, I guess, um. Yeah. 00:54:34,456 --> 00:54:35,526 [Nathan] Thank you for the deep insight. 00:54:35,526 --> 00:54:37,916 [Speaker 16] And keep up the great work, guys. 00:54:37,916 --> 00:54:38,996 [Nathan] Awesome, thank you. 00:54:38,996 --> 00:54:42,176 [Speaker 16] Awesome. 00:54:42,176 --> 00:54:45,676 [Speaker 16] Please, take me back to the void, please. No, no. 00:54:45,676 --> 00:54:47,246 [Nathan] [laughs]. 00:54:47,246 --> 00:54:47,276 [Speaker 16] No! 00:54:47,276 --> 00:55:14,932 [Nathan] Also, um, in between real quick. One thing I wanted to like clarify for some people. Um, I mentioned people were like kind of concerned when you brought up, like, the notification thing.... a lot... The, the goal of this is to be very... Like, I'm sorry, the goal of the ISU launcher is to be very customizable to whatever extent we can. Um, if, if you've been concerned about security or, like, logging in or any of the online features, just note that we'll have most of the stuff, even achievements most likely, completely toggleable from the UI. 00:55:14,932 --> 00:55:15,212 [Leonie] Yeah. 00:55:15,212 --> 00:55:26,442 [Nathan] Um, so we, we, we want to make that clear about, like, you know, oh, you got to buy into one thing, you got to buy into the whole network. It, it will be very, like, customizable and you can really just have a bare bones front end experience if you want. So- 00:55:26,442 --> 00:55:38,832 [Leonie] You can even, you can even choose, if you're concerned about, um, the virtual achievements credentials, you can even just choose to, um, let it stay on the device and not let it sync up with the online services. 00:55:38,832 --> 00:55:39,912 [Nathan] Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. 00:55:39,912 --> 00:55:40,492 [Leonie] That's- 00:55:40,492 --> 00:55:41,082 [Nathan] Like a direct link to the party 00:55:41,082 --> 00:55:53,112 [Leonie] ... like, anything online is, will be optional, um, and you can just not, uh, choose to not use it or, um, turn a few features off if you don't want to. 00:55:53,112 --> 00:55:53,172 [Nathan] Yep. 00:56:01,532 --> 00:56:05,532 [Nathan] Okay, let's go with Adel. 00:56:05,532 --> 00:56:08,072 [Leonie] Uh, Adel. 00:56:08,072 --> 00:56:08,742 [Leonie] Fuck. [laughs] 00:56:08,742 --> 00:56:11,212 [Speaker 17] Wow, okay. First of all- 00:56:11,212 --> 00:56:11,472 [Leonie] Adel 00:56:11,472 --> 00:56:17,652 [Speaker 17] ... fuck you thick daddy, you stole my fucking joke. That was mine. I said it first. 00:56:17,652 --> 00:56:18,952 [Nathan] [laughs] 00:56:18,952 --> 00:56:19,922 [Speaker 17] How fucking dare you? 00:56:19,922 --> 00:56:23,932 [Nathan] Sudden beef here. Um. [laughs] 00:56:23,932 --> 00:56:23,972 [Speaker 17] [laughs] 00:56:23,972 --> 00:56:25,772 [Nathan] Jenner. Okay. [laughs] 00:56:25,772 --> 00:56:26,102 [Leonie] Okay. [laughs] 00:56:26,102 --> 00:56:30,652 [Speaker 17] Anyway, thank you. Uh, I have a few questions. Um, 00:56:30,652 --> 00:56:42,932 [Speaker 17] let's see. Oh, firstly actually, because I did, uh, I heard your suggestion, Loony, which is the, the message notification. I thought of a great idea to be able to get TTS for your... for every, like, message. 00:56:42,932 --> 00:56:48,292 [Leonie] Oh, that's hard. That's hard to do. That's very hard to do. Even Mito, uh, like- 00:56:48,292 --> 00:56:48,632 [Nathan] Hmm 00:56:48,632 --> 00:56:49,682 [Leonie] ... you... Not Mito. Uh- 00:56:49,682 --> 00:56:51,012 [Nathan] That would be a little bit crazy. 00:56:51,012 --> 00:56:54,532 [Leonie] Um, the other one. Tomodachi Life, like that one still- 00:56:54,532 --> 00:56:55,302 [Speaker 17] Oh, that sounds pretty cool 00:56:55,302 --> 00:56:58,372 [Leonie] ... really hard to implement. But yeah. 00:56:58,372 --> 00:56:59,692 [Speaker 17] Mm-hmm. Okay. 00:56:59,692 --> 00:57:00,672 [Nathan] That'd be fun. [laughs] 00:57:00,672 --> 00:57:02,812 [Leonie] But that would be fun, uh, nevertheless. 00:57:02,812 --> 00:57:04,632 [Speaker 17] Every message you get, it would just play a TTS, but yeah. 00:57:04,632 --> 00:57:05,291 [Leonie] Yeah. 00:57:05,291 --> 00:57:29,052 [Speaker 17] Um, and then my next question would be, uh, would it be also eventually compatible, ISU specifically, compatible with other, like, um, other, like, emulation programs that also kind of run their own thing? Like, is there gonna be a full, like... Well, not full, but, like, any sort of, like, compatibility with other, like, 00:57:29,052 --> 00:57:30,612 [Speaker 17] programs, I guess? 00:57:30,612 --> 00:57:32,852 [Nathan] The front end you mean? 00:57:32,852 --> 00:57:33,492 [Speaker 17] Excuse me? 00:57:33,492 --> 00:57:41,292 [Nathan] Oh, do you mean like with, um, apps, like, that open to their own, like, UI before you go into a game or something? 00:57:41,292 --> 00:57:52,052 [Speaker 17] Yeah. Like if there's gonna be any sort of, like, for example, if, if they also have a sort of chat or something like that. Any, like, compatibilities, um, that goes cross platform? 00:57:52,052 --> 00:57:53,052 [Speaker 13] Yeah. 00:57:53,052 --> 00:57:54,842 [Leonie] Oh, Nathan. 00:57:54,842 --> 00:57:55,292 [Nathan] Hi. Yeah. 00:57:55,292 --> 00:57:58,892 [Leonie] Emergency. Um, our composer left. 00:57:58,892 --> 00:57:59,312 [Speaker 17] Huh. 00:57:59,312 --> 00:58:00,152 [Leonie] Tadeos. 00:58:00,152 --> 00:58:00,732 [Nathan] Ooh. 00:58:00,732 --> 00:58:04,051 [Leonie] Tadeos left. Fuck. 00:58:04,052 --> 00:58:04,952 [Speaker 17] Well, that's depressing. 00:58:04,952 --> 00:58:06,552 [Nathan] Don't... [laughs] 00:58:06,552 --> 00:58:08,431 [Leonie] Why do I have to be on stage when this happens? 00:58:08,432 --> 00:58:09,932 [Speaker 17] [sighs] 00:58:09,932 --> 00:58:11,352 [Speaker 13] Yeah. 00:58:11,352 --> 00:58:14,592 [Nathan] We, we can, we can worry about that later. I, I, uh... 00:58:14,592 --> 00:58:14,932 [Leonie] Yeah. 00:58:14,932 --> 00:58:18,012 [Nathan] I, I, I don't blame anyone for, for stepping down for a little bit. 00:58:19,272 --> 00:58:21,611 [Nathan] Well, maybe he'll be back, hopefully one day, maybe. 00:58:21,612 --> 00:58:26,592 [Nathan] But I don't... Yeah, I don't see any... anything about that yet. 00:58:26,592 --> 00:58:28,312 [Speaker 17] Okay. Um, next- 00:58:28,312 --> 00:58:29,992 [Nathan] But sorry, um, to answer your question- 00:58:29,992 --> 00:58:30,772 [Speaker 17] Oh, yeah 00:58:30,772 --> 00:58:59,891 [Nathan] ... um, uh, most, like, integrations with emulators, um, with other things like, like Game Hub as well we've seen it's possible, is you just link directly through, to the game. Like it, it skips the UI or just opens it briefly and opens it. Um, technically because it's an app launcher, there's nothing starting you from just opening the front end as well. Like, you can just put in, like, the RetroArch app to have it open into, like, the RetroArch UI if you wanted. Um, but most of it will just, like, bypass the UI if you, if you want. 00:58:59,892 --> 00:59:12,192 [Speaker 17] Mm-hmm. All right. Uh, next question. Um. Oh yeah, cloud service. Is there gonna be a cloud to go across plat- uh, not platform, across devices? 00:59:12,192 --> 00:59:16,111 [Nathan] Um, yeah, as, as in, like, um- 00:59:16,111 --> 00:59:21,732 [Speaker 17] Like, if I play on my computer, and then I close the game, and I could just continue on, like, a different device? 00:59:21,732 --> 00:59:36,902 [Nathan] That is a very complicated sync operation that's normally done, like, with your own computer. That is a lot more far out to have, like, like, save syncing with your account. Um, it's technically possible, but we... Like, that, that is a feature that we would love to do. 00:59:36,902 --> 00:59:36,912 [Speaker 13] Yeah. 00:59:36,912 --> 00:59:48,192 [Nathan] But it, it definitely... Yeah, I'm not sure. Like, you'll have your ISU network account synced, but I can't say anything on, like, having a full, um, sync thing alternative, like having- 00:59:48,192 --> 00:59:48,842 [Speaker 17] A cloud save. 00:59:48,842 --> 00:59:55,011 [Nathan] ... a ROM. Definitely not ROMs themselves, but the save files possibly. But it would be, it would be tough. 00:59:55,012 --> 00:59:56,251 [Speaker 17] Hmm. Okay. 00:59:56,252 --> 00:59:56,792 [Nathan] That's also 00:59:56,792 --> 01:00:23,352 [Speaker 17] Uh, oh yeah, the theme shop. I did have a few questions. At least I want some things to be clarified because I'm sure probably some of them have been, uh, made public, but I, I just want to clarify, especially for most people in here. Um, so the fact that people can sell their, uh, themes, uh, using points. Um, my question is, will those points be, uh, received by getting achievements? 01:00:23,352 --> 01:00:39,992 [Nathan] Yeah, that, that's the, uh... Getting points for free through things like ach- He only mentioned playtime before, but the original idea was like five points for an achievement or something. Um, the whole purpose of points instead of direct dollar amounts was 01:00:39,992 --> 01:01:10,012 [Nathan] simply because we wanted to allow people to get some amount of points for free and to allow it to be a little less serious than just like you pay $5 for this thing. So yeah, absolutely if we maintain the point system. Um, there is, there's some complexity that comes with the point system with, like, when someone gets paid points, if there's also free points, how do we balance that so we don't, you know, go negative every time someone makes a purchase? But we're, we're trying to figure that out. But yeah, if we have a point system as it was in the presentation, you'll be able to get them from achievements or from other things. 01:01:10,012 --> 01:01:28,702 [Speaker 17] Okay, nice. Uh, and then as well on the, uh, theme shop-Um, basically, the... The premium, like when, when you pay $5 for that premium, uh, is that so you can import your own custom one? And if you don't have premium, are you not able to do that? 01:01:28,702 --> 01:01:32,422 [Nathan] Um, import your... Oh, what do you... Like import your own custom ISU theme that you made? 01:01:32,422 --> 01:01:48,702 [Speaker 17] Like, the way people can, like, post and sell or just have people get someone else's theme, but the way you can import it into ISU, is that just people can just change it however they like from the get-go? Or is that something you also have to pay the $5 for? 01:01:48,702 --> 01:01:50,362 [Nathan] Um, 01:01:50,362 --> 01:02:02,042 [Nathan] I'm not entirely 100%. Um, like, that, that, that... The whole theming thing, the split between the paid version and the non-paid version is a lot simpler without Shopee. 01:02:02,042 --> 01:02:02,052 [Speaker 17] [laughs] 01:02:02,052 --> 01:02:13,242 [Nathan] And honestly, I wish he didn't show sh- like, I was telling him, "We shouldn't show Shopee yet on the presentation 'cause, like, we have a lot of things not locked down." Um, but 01:02:13,242 --> 01:02:49,522 [Nathan] I, I, I... All I'll say is I'm not 100% sure. There's, there are some specific, um, theming options that will be likely to be locked down without, um, premium such as, like, changing music and stuff. But I'm not 100% sure on, like, the full split on if you'll be able to, like, use themes. Like, at, at least it'll be that the, the pro version unlocks, like, official free ISU themes that we as a team release ourselves. Like, that would be likely locked behind the pro version for, for some, uh, motivation for funding. But beyond that, I don't know all the specifics. 01:02:49,522 --> 01:03:00,802 [Speaker 17] Okay. All right, last two questions. [laughs] How big should we expect the ISU delays go- to, to be from now on? 01:03:00,802 --> 01:03:06,262 [Nathan] Um, y-... Delays? Do you mean, like, between Alphas or what do you mean? 01:03:06,262 --> 01:03:19,182 [Speaker 17] Yeah, sure, in general. Like, how... Are, are there gonna be bigger delays? Is it gonna take longer for some more Alphas to be released? And generally, the actual, like, idea of when it should be released. Uh, how big is gonna be there? 01:03:19,182 --> 01:03:19,192 [Nathan] Um- 01:03:19,192 --> 01:03:21,562 [Speaker 17] Hey, guys, stop with the hoopla. I don't fucking care. 01:03:21,562 --> 01:03:22,332 [Nathan] Okay. [laughs] 01:03:22,332 --> 01:03:27,502 [Speaker 17] Um, how about... How big is the delays going to be in between all, all of those? 01:03:27,542 --> 01:03:34,431 [Nathan] Oh, I see. So, it, it shouldn't be very much different. Um... Oh, you, you set off a chain. Oh, no, it's over in the chat. But- 01:03:34,431 --> 01:03:35,922 [Speaker 17] [laughs] You guys. 01:03:35,922 --> 01:03:38,522 [Leonie] Tadeo's and Spyder were still here. It's fine. 01:03:38,522 --> 01:03:38,902 [Speaker 17] Ugh. 01:03:38,902 --> 01:03:41,122 [Nathan] Yeah, I don't... I don't know what you were talking about, Tadeo. He hasn't- 01:03:41,122 --> 01:03:45,022 [Leonie] Like, someone actually had said that to me. I'm not sure. 01:03:45,022 --> 01:03:47,682 [Nathan] I... Don't say everything you've, you've read on this board 01:03:47,682 --> 01:03:48,982 [Speaker 17] [laughs] 01:03:48,982 --> 01:03:49,022 [Nathan] ... since it's ISU themed. 01:03:49,022 --> 01:03:50,802 [Speaker 17] Don't believe anything people just say. 01:03:50,802 --> 01:03:52,822 [Nathan] Like, Leon, you gotta, you gotta... But I don't know. 01:03:52,822 --> 01:03:52,922 [Leonie] [laughs] 01:03:52,922 --> 01:03:53,362 [Speaker 17] Form your own opinion. 01:03:53,362 --> 01:03:55,882 [Nathan] I checked when he said that. He hasn't DMed me, he hasn't like- 01:03:55,882 --> 01:04:00,931 [Speaker 17] Don't go with the masses. Please be your own person. 01:04:00,931 --> 01:04:00,982 [Nathan] Please. 01:04:00,982 --> 01:04:03,132 [Leonie] Yes, sorry. [laughs] 01:04:03,132 --> 01:04:03,702 [Nathan] Please. But, um- 01:04:03,702 --> 01:04:07,202 [Speaker 17] If, if only people knew about that fact, this whole thing wouldn't happen. Anyway, um... 01:04:07,202 --> 01:04:08,862 [Nathan] That's, that's what I'm, that's what I'm saying. 01:04:08,862 --> 01:04:11,632 [Speaker 17] Yeah. So how bad are the releases going to be? Uh, the delays. Sorry. 01:04:11,632 --> 01:04:11,642 [Nathan] So- 01:04:11,642 --> 01:04:13,202 [Speaker 17] How bad are going to be the delays? 01:04:13,202 --> 01:05:18,651 [Nathan] Um, we have a few things to figure out before we... [laughs] Before we, like, fully, um, continue and, like, dial in the development plan. But as Usagi wasn't, um, a, a developer, it's not gonna impact us very much. And while there is the lack of funding, a lot of us are here... Like, we're, we're still gonna look into, um, what to do about that. But a lot of us were here as more of a passion project than, like... Like salaries and, um, caring more about the, the, the revenue for everyone, um, at the current time. We, we've always hoped to, to pay people what we can. And, um, get a good share of the pay, but a lot of these people here would be okay if everyone, um, received less funding because Usagi is gone. So, I, I don't... Well, like, that doesn't mean any single person is getting paid at all then in that case. But I, I don't see it being major development slowdowns. Um, we would love to open some things up to a couple more developers sometime as well if anyone is willing to work on the project. But I don't see any large delays happening, um, because of this despite- 01:05:18,651 --> 01:05:18,651 [Speaker 17] Okay 01:05:18,651 --> 01:05:22,202 [Nathan] ... some unfortunate things, but- 01:05:22,202 --> 01:06:04,162 [Speaker 17] I hate you guys. Stop asking me. Um, all right. Then one last question. It's controversial but it's not related to Usagi, don't worry. Um, but it's gonna be quite controversial, I, I think. Um, and that is, do you... Are you guys gonna consider, uh, to turn the Discord server into a Patreon-only Discord server? Or make it Patreon-only so that people active on the official Discord server are... Jesus, are, um, only like patrons and, you know, anybody else who didn't want to pay for it could just make their own community? And if not, I would suggest that you just get a, like, a verification thing for anybody who joins. Jesus Christ. 01:06:04,162 --> 01:06:25,082 [Nathan] Um, so the main, main, like... The, the only consideration that would be for, like, a Patreon-only Discord is for, like, se- for security so we don't have the moderation issues. But I, I've always generally been against having a VIP Discord, um, unless it's like a separate one beyond, like, another officially maintained public one. 01:06:25,082 --> 01:06:27,872 [Speaker 17] That would be also a good idea, actually. I would, I would go there, yeah. 01:06:27,872 --> 01:06:52,322 [Nathan] Yeah. Uh, I- I... We might do that so it's a separate one, but we don't wanna have, like, the only community hub for ISU be, um, VIP only. We, we do want it to keep it open to most people so they can just chat or, like... 'Cause before the presentation, it was very chill. There was like a very positive community. Um, it's just a lot of stuff has happened since then, so we have to... Had to reconsider things. But, um, 01:06:52,322 --> 01:07:03,362 [Nathan] this... I, I, I don't think this server as it is will turn into, like, a VIP-only thing. Like, maybe there's another one that's, that's made. But, um, yeah, I think it'll be... 01:07:03,362 --> 01:07:16,102 [Leonie] Also, um, the bigger idea of ISU was to have our own little, like, social features. So, um, we might not even have to rely on Discord at some point. 01:07:17,938 --> 01:07:18,378 [Speaker 17] All right. 01:07:18,378 --> 01:07:20,168 [Nathan] Definitely, that's definitely long term, though. 01:07:20,168 --> 01:07:20,178 [Speaker 17] Yeah. 01:07:20,178 --> 01:07:33,317 [Nathan] But because this- Discord is very easy, but we're, we're... One thing is we're trying to get, um, a, a landing page website set up. I, I was hoping to do it before the presentation, but that would be amaz- like a very nice way to get FAQs out and- 01:07:33,318 --> 01:07:33,898 [Speaker 17] Yep 01:07:33,898 --> 01:07:38,358 [Nathan] ... to get other info out for the community, so it's not just in the Discord. 01:07:38,358 --> 01:07:38,768 [Speaker 17] Yeah. 01:07:38,768 --> 01:07:38,978 [Speaker 13] Hoopla. 01:07:38,978 --> 01:07:45,838 [Speaker 17] I, I also thought to integrate, um, a knowledge base into Corboard, so... 01:07:45,838 --> 01:07:45,948 [Nathan] Mm-hmm. 01:07:45,948 --> 01:07:46,698 [Speaker 17] Hmm. That'd be good. 01:07:46,698 --> 01:07:48,938 [Nathan] Awesome. 01:07:48,938 --> 01:07:53,558 [Speaker 17] All right. That, that does it for all my available questions. Um- 01:07:53,558 --> 01:07:54,018 [Nathan] Thank you 01:07:54,018 --> 01:07:57,598 [Speaker 17] ... by the way, thank you, Daddy. I'm just joking. I love you. [laughs] No, no- 01:07:57,598 --> 01:07:57,978 [Speaker 13] Hoopla 01:07:57,978 --> 01:08:00,478 [Speaker 17] ... actual, no, no actual hate. [laughs] 01:08:00,478 --> 01:08:01,198 [Nathan] Yeah. [laughs] 01:08:01,198 --> 01:08:07,658 [Speaker 17] But, yes, thank you guys very much for answering my questions. I apologize for the guys in the background. Um, 01:08:07,658 --> 01:08:11,918 [Speaker 17] and I'm sorry about the chat. Looks like it's also ruined now. 01:08:11,918 --> 01:08:11,938 [Speaker 13] Hoopla. 01:08:11,938 --> 01:08:16,918 [Nathan] It looks like it's, it's, yeah, it's been boomed. No, no recovery. Sorry. [laughs] 01:08:16,918 --> 01:08:22,228 [Speaker 17] I, I don't w- Our people want this to be an ISU-specific meme. I... Please, guys. [laughs] 01:08:22,228 --> 01:08:22,898 [Nathan] [laughs] 01:08:22,898 --> 01:08:26,417 [Speaker 17] I can't. I live enough with the s- 01:08:26,418 --> 01:08:27,308 [Nathan] No, the last one didn't play. 01:08:27,308 --> 01:08:30,878 [Speaker 17] Just DM me the sound and I will make it an a- and I will put it on the soundboard for everyone. 01:08:30,878 --> 01:08:31,868 [Speaker 13] Hoopla. 01:08:31,868 --> 01:08:31,998 [Speaker 17] No! 01:08:31,998 --> 01:08:33,238 [Nathan] No. [laughs] 01:08:33,238 --> 01:08:36,948 [Speaker 17] I have had enough of that Discord. Oh. [laughs] 01:08:36,948 --> 01:08:39,697 [Nathan] [laughs] You're gonna be haunted forever now, have fun. 01:08:39,698 --> 01:08:45,368 [Speaker 17] It's not parrots, guys. I'm sorry to disappoint you. These are not birds. I wish they were birds. I could shut them up if they were. 01:08:45,368 --> 01:08:45,958 [Speaker 13] Hoopla. 01:08:45,958 --> 01:08:48,278 [Speaker 17] But they're not birds, guys. 01:08:48,278 --> 01:08:50,778 [Nathan] This is what? [laughs] I genuinely don't know what's going on. 01:08:50,778 --> 01:08:52,278 [Speaker 17] They're not birds. 01:08:52,278 --> 01:08:52,318 [Speaker 13] Hoopla. 01:08:52,318 --> 01:08:54,958 [Speaker 17] Does that sound like a bird to you? 01:08:55,378 --> 01:08:56,358 [Nathan] Okay. [laughs] 01:08:56,358 --> 01:08:58,218 [Speaker 17] That's a Hoopla. 01:08:58,218 --> 01:08:59,718 [Nathan] It's a Hoopla. 01:08:59,718 --> 01:09:00,478 [Speaker 17] Okay. 01:09:00,478 --> 01:09:00,568 [Nathan] Thank you very much. 01:09:00,568 --> 01:09:04,258 [Speaker 17] Also like Pigments but on ISU. [laughs] 01:09:04,258 --> 01:09:06,518 [Nathan] Pigments but on fucking crack. 01:09:06,518 --> 01:09:08,728 [Speaker 17] [laughs] 01:09:08,728 --> 01:09:12,908 [Nathan] [laughs] All right, guys. I think I'm Clash Royale. 01:09:12,908 --> 01:09:15,878 [Speaker 17] All right. Let's get, let's get someone else in for, um, 01:09:17,978 --> 01:09:19,498 [Speaker 17] questions. 01:09:19,498 --> 01:09:22,898 [Nathan] Let's see. 01:09:22,898 --> 01:09:27,378 [Nathan] Problem is I have to leave anytime soon, 01:09:27,378 --> 01:09:33,558 [Nathan] one or two p- Let's do Isaac. 01:09:33,558 --> 01:09:35,258 [Speaker 18] Um, hello, can you hear me? 01:09:35,258 --> 01:09:36,937 [Nathan] Yep, hello. 01:09:36,938 --> 01:09:46,278 [Speaker 18] Hi, Leoni. Hi, Nathan. It's so nice to speak to both of you. I'm a big fan of what I've seen so far from the, uh, project. I had three quick questions, if that's okay. 01:09:46,278 --> 01:09:47,098 [Nathan] Yeah. 01:09:47,098 --> 01:10:09,198 [Speaker 18] Um, with UsagiShadez stepping down, um, and considering he personally covered most of the development costs alongside $5,000 in donations which are now being refunded, um, are you guys going to fund it, or is it, will it rely solely on donations? How do you think this will work? 01:10:09,198 --> 01:10:52,578 [Nathan] A large portion of funding was coming from those dona- donations to begin with. We were hoping for more funding from, from YouTube ad revenue and from things like that for hi- for him to be able to fund it better, but there, there shouldn't be a major change in the funding. Um, I'm sorry, I don't have a lot of answers on like donations as I've seen people asking. Again, I talked with Usagi last night, but, um, I don't have any like concrete platform on like if you can donate, where you can donate, a- another Patreon to have, um, or anything to maintain that. But I can say that the, the fundamental source of funds before was our, our supporters, and that'll probably continue to be the same. So, I don't expect that to be much, much different. 01:10:52,578 --> 01:11:13,358 [Speaker 18] Okay. Um, second question. So just to be clear, his departure did not push it off in any... It didn't push it off course or anything? And, uh, did you... From what I heard, did you basically wake up to find yourself in charge of the entire operation or the enti- like, the head of everything? 01:11:13,358 --> 01:11:14,288 [Nathan] Uh, yes. I- 01:11:14,288 --> 01:11:15,338 [Speaker 18] In what I'm hearing? 01:11:15,338 --> 01:12:00,957 [Nathan] I, last night, I, I, he was like... [laughs] He finally came back and just messaged me last night, and, um, was like, "It's, it's, it's over. It's, I'm gonna shut it all down." [laughs] And I, I don't blame him for, um, being, you know, feeling negative from all the, the online community, but I he- I, I mentioned that it would be okay if I... Like, I, I would try to maintain the community. I would try to do it. So, I, I made it clear that I would be okay, so I, I have expected it. But other than that, yes, I, I normally sleep at least like eight hours every day. But this time my body woke me up like after three hours to be like, "You gotta check what's going on." So I kinda did just roll out of bed into this. So, sorry if I misspoke or like am I a little shaky or something. 01:12:00,958 --> 01:12:11,957 [Speaker 18] But you're, you're fine. No problem. This is, this is clearly a lot to handle. Um, props to how it's being managed so far. I can see everyone's really at work here. Um, did- 01:12:11,958 --> 01:12:12,658 [Nathan] Yeah 01:12:12,658 --> 01:12:22,518 [Speaker 18] ... you plan to further address this with a final post, or is the recorded Q&A going on right now the final time this will be addressed? 01:12:22,518 --> 01:12:24,498 [Nathan] Um, 01:12:24,498 --> 01:12:37,858 [Nathan] I, I'm not entirely sure. Um, it'll be nice to, for me to make a little statement so people are a little bit clear on things. Um, so you might get a statement from me. But other than that, I'm, I'm not sure. 01:12:38,718 --> 01:13:03,198 [Speaker 18] Okay, cool. Um, and again, just regarding the, uh, notification question asked by, uh, Leoni, I believe, um, I, I did see other people in the chat saying that, uh, it would be cool if maybe we could upload our own little audio files, obviously, that nobody, nobody else could hear because we wouldn't want like a Chatot situation from, uh, Gen IV with the, uh, that whole drama that was on online. 01:13:03,198 --> 01:13:05,558 [Nathan] Yeah, with his own [laughs] using us as attack online. It's crazy. 01:13:05,558 --> 01:13:08,908 [Speaker 18] Yeah, we wouldn't, we wouldn't want the Chatot situation to come back. 01:13:08,908 --> 01:13:12,978 [Nathan] Yeah. Um, we're not bringing Chatot back in the Big 25, unfortunately. 01:13:12,978 --> 01:13:13,718 [Speaker 18] Yeah. 01:13:13,718 --> 01:13:15,668 [Nathan] No, but to answer that, yes. 01:13:15,668 --> 01:13:16,998 [Speaker 18] Yeah, no, um- 01:13:17,238 --> 01:13:44,746 [Nathan] Um, we... Like that's, that's a big thing. For some of you who saw like the, the little hover thing over, um, apps, like to play a little tune for each one. And as well as like other UI, um, sound effects and like notifications. A lot of it will be stuff users upload, partly for like IP reasons, partly for, um, just our database.But there's gonna be lots of, of l- like, availability for uploading your own assets and uploading your own music for that, absolutely. 01:13:44,746 --> 01:13:59,866 [Speaker 18] All right, yeah, that's... Um, thank you for your answers. That was, uh, that was about it, I believe. Thank you both for your time, and again, I'm a big fan of the project so far, and I really appreciate everything. Um, thank you. Have a lovely day. 01:13:59,866 --> 01:14:00,236 [Nathan] Yes, thank you so much. 01:14:00,236 --> 01:14:02,606 [Speaker 18] Or as best as you both can have. 01:14:02,606 --> 01:14:02,845 [Leonie] Oh. 01:14:02,846 --> 01:14:06,345 [Nathan] Yeah. Thank you. 01:14:08,006 --> 01:14:17,006 [Leonie] Um, I also brought up an idea, um, that we may- can maybe use, um, since 01:14:17,006 --> 01:14:26,546 [Leonie] BetterAuth has a Stripe plugin. May be able to just go with our own donation platform. 01:14:26,546 --> 01:14:31,416 [Nathan] Mm-hmm. I mean, I think it'd be easy to keep it to Patreon or- or Ko-Fi for people that- 01:14:31,416 --> 01:14:32,466 [Leonie] Yeah, for now, for now- 01:14:32,466 --> 01:14:33,686 [Nathan] Just for SEO as well, but.. 01:14:33,686 --> 01:14:46,346 [Leonie] Yeah, but for now, um, I would say, like, in the later stage, where we actually have to, um, figure out who subscribed or who ... 'cause it's still like an issue on the back end side. We c- cannot- 01:14:46,346 --> 01:14:47,196 [Nathan] Mm-hmm 01:14:47,196 --> 01:14:53,036 [Leonie] ... figure out who subscribed to ca- Patreon or Ko-Fi. Still have to tell us. 01:14:53,036 --> 01:14:54,206 [Nathan] Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 01:14:54,206 --> 01:14:56,226 [Leonie] Um, 01:14:56,226 --> 01:14:58,446 [Leonie] [clicks tongue] 01:14:58,866 --> 01:15:01,446 [Leonie] let's see 01:15:01,446 --> 01:15:09,406 [Leonie] ... off. Uh, how's on Twitch? 01:15:09,406 --> 01:15:11,966 [Speaker 19] Awesome. I was hoping it was gonna be 01:15:11,966 --> 01:15:15,726 [Speaker 19] ... Uh, okay. Uh, you guys can hear me, right? 01:15:15,726 --> 01:15:16,926 [Nathan] Yep, we can. 01:15:16,926 --> 01:15:19,325 [Speaker 19] Okay, okay. So 01:15:19,326 --> 01:15:30,466 [Speaker 19] my- my question is, uh, pretty simple. Uh, I feel like the past two days has shown that we have a moderation issue, uh, and 01:15:30,466 --> 01:16:28,566 [Speaker 19] I was just wondering, um, what is moderation gonna look like on the social app, on the social features, you know? If we're gonna have something similar to, like, Miiverse. I mean, everyone knows how Miiverse went down. Feel like every time we try and implement something similar in this, you know, community, in this space, things happen. Uh, I'm very heavily against the use of, like, AI, but I also know that, like ... I mean, just in two days, we went from having 200 people in this audience to almost 900. And I can't imagine the- the- the members are gonna drop any more, or anymore. Um, so yeah. I'm just wondering how moderation is gonna be implemented on the social services of ISU if, uh, we're gonna go with social services at all, and, you know, keep that social media idea in the first place. 'Cause I know that was, like, a big portion, and that sorta drew a lot of people to, like, ISU. But, 01:16:28,566 --> 01:16:47,106 [Speaker 19] you know, that's scary. I don't- I don't wanna, uh ... I don't wanna see the project crumble because of, you know, poor moderation, and that's not necessarily, like, your guys' fault. That's just, uh, there's only so many moderators, and there's so many fucking people in this group, you know? 01:16:47,106 --> 01:17:08,546 [Nathan] Mm-hmm. Yeah, so like I said before, for the full, like, Miiverse style, um, online social forum, for now we're gonna scale back on that and work most on, like, the core friends social features and, like, um, more personal, like, DMs and those things. But 01:17:08,546 --> 01:17:37,386 [Nathan] for the, like, 'cause we- we still absolutely want to bring back Miiverse and, like, bring back a lot of these more, like, global social f- um, features. And we will- we will use a mix of, like, standard protocol bot moderation for, like, image detection, for text detection, for everything like that. Um, we have much better tools than Discord gives us to- for moderation when we have our own platform. Um, and at the same time, we will have 01:17:37,386 --> 01:17:49,306 [Nathan] much better community structures per community for moderat- moderating this for people who- who want to moderate the communities themselves. Um, as well as some global platform moderators. So we will definitely keep- 01:17:50,526 --> 01:17:57,986 [Nathan] keep, um, better tabs on things on our own social platform when that becomes a reality. So that's mostly what I can say about that. 01:17:57,986 --> 01:17:58,686 [Speaker 19] Okay, yeah. 01:17:58,686 --> 01:17:58,835 [Leonie] About that- 01:17:58,835 --> 01:18:01,646 [Speaker 19] I- I caught the ta- Oh, sorry. Go ahead. 01:18:01,646 --> 01:18:09,266 [Leonie] A- about that, um, core board, um, will probably just fix 50% of all problems [laughs] we have right now. 01:18:09,266 --> 01:18:14,726 [Nathan] Yeah. We're- we're working on some stuff to- to hopefully address most of it, so 01:18:14,726 --> 01:18:14,846 [Nathan] ... 01:18:14,846 --> 01:18:36,106 [Speaker 19] Um, yeah. I mean, that's- that's promising. That's what I was hoping. I was hoping to hear that, you know? Because I- I also- I wasn't asking out of my own personal, like, uh, distrust with you guys, but I did see a lot of people express the sentiment, "Oh, the social platform this and this and this and this." I- I caught the tail end of the Q&A so I didn't hear if that question was asked before. I guess- 01:18:36,106 --> 01:18:36,136 [Leonie] Not sure 01:18:36,136 --> 01:19:33,426 [Speaker 19] ... I should've asked if it was. Um, but yeah. My- my second thing, it's just a- it's more of a suggestion and not a- not a question. Uh, can you guys add, like, what you, what your role is on the team, uh, into your ... Like, as an, uh, more of an announcement or, like, something people can see when they join? Because I'm still kind of like ... I- I- I mean, I understood a little bit more at the tail end that Isagi was, like, not the lead dev, but as- definitely during, like, the first direct, I was like, "Oh, Isagi's the one who's, like, handling most of the back end development." You know? It wasn't until he s- it was like, "Oh, Leone is the lead developer," that I was like, "Oh. Well, that changes my understanding of the hierarchy a bit." You know? So I- I'd like to appreciate or I would appreciate it if that was just something that was added to the, uh, you know, maybe an announcements page or maybe just a meet the team page. It could be added to information, et cetera, et cetera. Y- you know what I'm saying? 01:19:33,426 --> 01:20:00,719 [Nathan] Yeah. So we did do a dev announcement a while ago before the f- um, second presentation, going over everyone's roles. But it- at this point it's been, like, long buried. So we could break out developers and, like, back end and front end and, like, their- their roles in Discord. We could make another announcement. Um, that- that's a good point, though.... 'cause I know there's a lot of people tagged as an ISU dev, but, like, not everyone knows what, who's doing what. But, um, you can- 01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:00,719 [Leonie] Yeah 01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:40,950 [Nathan] ... mostly understand that Weizhos is doing the Android front end, um, primarily with some others, like Hecki, helping him out with some, some function calls. Um, Leone is leading back-end development and the structural support. Um, Harsh is doing database management for our scraper and for, um, our general database. Um, Hecki is working on some miscellaneous things. And we have some other people like JD Brands, King Ultron that were listed as, like, miscellaneous devs. We have most of this in, um, the presentation, but, um, yeah, I- I'd say go towards the end of the presentation to see more details on what each dev kind of does. 01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:41,869 [Leonie] I would actually even- 01:20:41,870 --> 01:20:44,450 [Nathan] I'm not sure if it's even available right now, actually but ... I'll check though. 01:20:44,450 --> 01:20:53,450 [Leonie] I would even go as far and probably just put our team names and pictures and what they're about to do on, on the website. 01:20:53,450 --> 01:20:55,269 [Nathan] Yeah, that... On the website would be the main spot for that. 01:20:55,269 --> 01:20:56,330 [Speaker 19] I love that. 01:20:56,330 --> 01:20:56,540 [Leonie] Yeah. 01:20:56,540 --> 01:20:59,570 [Speaker 19] Yeah, that, that's actually a way better idea. [laughs] 01:20:59,570 --> 01:21:09,250 [Leonie] We have to restructure it anyway. Um, right now, the development of the website is paused as we are waiting for, um, the Svelte comp- to be fired. 01:21:09,250 --> 01:21:11,370 [Nathan] Yeah. 01:21:11,370 --> 01:21:21,630 [Speaker 19] Okay. Well, uh, once again, thanks for, you know, I said this last time, but thanks for all the work you guys are doing. Uh, despite all this, I'm very proud of the team. And, uh, 01:21:22,990 --> 01:21:33,590 [Speaker 19] you know, this is a bump in the road, but we've all got this, you know. I haven't seen support for, uh, a project like this in a long time. And, uh, it's a very 01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:56,750 [Speaker 19] welcome, you know, project. Like, people... I, I feel like it doesn't need to be said, but people, people need this, you know? And so, the fact that it's not canceled, the fact that we're still moving forward as planned, um, is very, uh, exciting and encouraging. So, uh, thanks again. Thanks, Leone. Thanks, Nathan. Uh, and, uh, I will catch you on the flip. [laughs] 01:21:56,750 --> 01:22:00,210 [Nathan] Thank you so much. Appreciate that. 01:22:00,210 --> 01:22:06,750 [Leonie] Someone asked about the shadow drop. It's actually pretty easy. Um, the alpha build. [laughs] 01:22:06,750 --> 01:22:08,768 [Nathan] Which, what thing? 01:22:08,769 --> 01:22:14,490 [Leonie] We're pretty much shadow dropping the alpha build in the new one. 01:22:14,490 --> 01:22:15,250 [Nathan] Oh, really? 01:22:15,250 --> 01:22:15,650 [Leonie] Yeah. 01:22:15,650 --> 01:22:18,329 [Nathan] I'm not, I'm not aware. 01:22:18,330 --> 01:22:24,969 [Leonie] Yeah, no. Now it's, now it's [laughs] there. It's not really a shadow drop anymore. Well, well. [laughs] 01:22:24,969 --> 01:22:27,170 [Nathan] Well, yeah. 01:22:27,170 --> 01:22:29,549 [Leonie] Um... 01:22:29,550 --> 01:22:41,469 [Nathan] Yeah. We'll, we'll have to finalize some stuff in text because not everyone is at this Q- Q and A for project status, um, timeline and some more, like, clarifications about things. But- 01:22:41,469 --> 01:22:41,710 [Leonie] Yeah 01:22:41,710 --> 01:22:42,320 [Nathan] ... yeah, that we'll have to figure out in the- 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,330 [Leonie] We will put that on core board 01:22:44,330 --> 01:22:44,829 [Nathan] ... coming hours. 01:22:44,830 --> 01:22:51,330 [Leonie] With the Q and A and knowledge base, and, um, some basic information on the website. Just- 01:22:51,330 --> 01:22:52,290 [Nathan] Yeah 01:22:52,290 --> 01:22:56,530 [Leonie] ... keep calm and wait [laughs] while we're working behind the scenes. 01:22:56,530 --> 01:22:57,330 [Nathan] Yeah. That's- 01:22:57,330 --> 01:22:57,370 [Leonie] Um- 01:22:57,370 --> 01:22:59,410 [Nathan] That's the main thing right now. 01:22:59,410 --> 01:23:08,389 [Leonie] Also, someone said, "How will you deal with Nintendo's legal team?" It's easy, we have FormTent. [laughs] We're not doing anything illegal here. 01:23:08,389 --> 01:23:13,009 [Nathan] No, we're, we're not. If you, um, 01:23:13,009 --> 01:23:20,889 [Nathan] if, if you're concerned about IP law or anything, I don't, I- I would not, we're not shipping anything with Nintendo IP. 01:23:20,889 --> 01:23:21,019 [Leonie] Yeah. 01:23:21,019 --> 01:23:51,730 [Nathan] We're not, we're not distributing anything illegal. Um, the presentations use some, some IP, but if you go online at all, you'll see this IP is used on YouTube, on, you know, videos, on presentations. It's, it's totally okay. Um, we've scaled back on, on some things, um, like, such as, like, advertising, like, the Switch or whatever like that. We- we can't really do that publicly. Um, but other than that, uh, yeah, it's, it's not much of a concern. 01:23:51,730 --> 01:24:01,969 [Leonie] Also, someone asked, um, second question is, um, could ISU ever turn into a full-blown library manager, like PlayNet? Uh, I saw it's coming to PC. Um, 01:24:01,969 --> 01:24:05,500 [Leonie] I can say something about this, um, because I saw that in the presentation. 01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:05,509 [Nathan] Yeah, sure. 01:24:05,509 --> 01:24:16,610 [Leonie] The presentation pretty much summed it up that, um, the final goal would be that ISU, um, will become basically Steam. [laughs] 01:24:16,610 --> 01:24:23,449 [Leonie] Where it's, like, a full platf- gaming platform, gaming hub and gaming ecosystem. 01:24:23,450 --> 01:24:26,150 [Nathan] To some extent, yeah. Um, 01:24:26,150 --> 01:24:38,830 [Nathan] when, especially on desktop, it can be used like things like LaunchBox and PlayNight, where it can be a full launcher. Um, we have some small plans for allowing distribution of small, um, indie games and things on the platform. 01:24:38,830 --> 01:24:39,610 [Leonie] Yeah. 01:24:39,610 --> 01:24:47,410 [Nathan] Some things for, you know, potential distros, potential, like, ports to other platforms. So, yeah, it, it totally can be used for, as a general launcher- 01:24:47,410 --> 01:24:47,889 [Leonie] But I've even got- 01:24:47,889 --> 01:24:50,760 [Nathan] Right now, our priority is an emulation. 01:24:50,760 --> 01:25:02,990 [Leonie] Yeah. Priority is emulation and the Android front end. Um, I even... I'm currently cooking up a distro right now, [laughs] so if the PC version ever becomes a thing, um, this will be first to do it. 01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:05,730 [Nathan] For sure. 01:25:05,730 --> 01:25:10,330 [Leonie] What will happen with the server on this weekend? 01:25:10,330 --> 01:25:10,790 [Speaker 19] Yeah. 01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:12,150 [Nathan] What will happen with the server? [laughs] 01:25:12,150 --> 01:25:16,950 [Leonie] Yeah. On the weekend, since mods are asleep probably. 01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:29,450 [Nathan] Yeah. So I have, I have to, to fly home in probably a few hours, 'cause again I'm, I'm in a relative's house, and I'm not in my... Not in a very optimal situation. 01:25:29,450 --> 01:25:45,809 [Nathan] So I don't entirely know, um, but we're gonna keep on... [laughs] We're gonna keep on keeping on. Um, and I- I know a lot of mods will be away, but we're gonna try to keep up with moderation. Um, I know plenty of little straws are still willing to help out. But 01:25:45,809 --> 01:26:03,570 [Nathan] yeah, we're not gonna make any, any massive changes as of right now. We'll make some clarification posts. Um, as I know not everyone's heard everything in this FAQ, but that's, that's the main thing. Just clarifying some things, making it clear that we're pretty firm on maintaining this project and everything. 01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:11,370 [Leonie] I'd probably just go for the f- um, last text questions because it gets late and I have to catch my train. Um- 01:26:11,370 --> 01:26:11,750 [Nathan] 100% 01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:23,930 [Leonie] If iiSU, um, comes to PC, will it have a convergent user interface? For example, stuff isn't Android sized on a PC monitor. Because it would be funny to use iiSU on the wall of Gamecube. 01:26:23,930 --> 01:26:54,440 [Nathan] Oh, yeah, absolutely. Um, I- I saw some people comment about things being, like, oversized. Um, and, like, because they were watching on a PC monitor but there's nothing against us making it more responsive on various cre- screen sizes like any other front end application is. So there's... The, the whole goal is for iiSU to adapt to, like, 4:3, 16:9, dual screen with both 4:3, dual screen with whatever combination of aspect ratios. So, responsiveness in design and, like, aka, like, scalability will be- 01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:54,450 [Leonie] [laughs] 01:26:54,450 --> 01:26:55,960 [Nathan] ... should not be an issue. It should be, uh- 01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:04,820 [Leonie] Okay, I have... I have to, um, let out a little laugh. Um, someone said, "No worries, you are in Germany. [laughs] That train will be late anyway." Oh, that hurt. 01:27:04,820 --> 01:27:04,940 [Nathan] Yeah. [laughs] 01:27:04,940 --> 01:27:07,419 [Leonie] [laughs] Okay. Um- 01:27:07,419 --> 01:27:08,830 [Nathan] Yeah. No, that's not- 01:27:08,830 --> 01:27:25,150 [Leonie] Also, a really last question because it's very, um, very, um, like, um, thing. Um, how... Wait, what about, uh, something like a Mii character? 01:27:25,150 --> 01:27:26,510 [Nathan] Um, 01:27:26,510 --> 01:27:29,570 [Nathan] I see. Something about a Mii character just for an avatar? 01:27:29,570 --> 01:27:30,470 [Leonie] Yeah. 01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:32,500 [Nathan] Is that the most pressing thing? Maybe? I guess. 01:27:32,500 --> 01:27:36,090 [Leonie] Yeah, the chi- the chirpers are probably what they are asking about. How will they... 01:27:36,090 --> 01:28:08,870 [Nathan] Yeah. We have some plans for a custom avatar. Um, I- I don't think we could... We might have, like, a plug-in for the Mii Creator app that people have found. But officially being supported, we have a- a system for chirpers which are kinda the things that you see from Usagi's channel, where it's like the little 16-bit sprite of him talking, um, through little interludes. Um, that might be the plan we go to for, like, custom avatars that aren't just images. Similar to Miis but having it be a chirper system that's customizable. But that's probably what... 01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:18,730 [Leonie] Yeah. Also just to keep people from uploading bad pictures to the platform as a profile picture. It will be probably just another can of worms to moderate. 01:28:18,730 --> 01:28:20,090 [Nathan] Mm-hmm. For sure. 01:28:20,090 --> 01:28:33,050 [Leonie] Um, I would actually support Gravatar because they have a pretty good system of moderating profile pictures. Like, you can set it to just only display E-rated profile pictures and it will stay that way. 01:28:34,290 --> 01:28:36,510 [Leonie] Um, 01:28:36,510 --> 01:28:54,190 [Leonie] yeah. I think that's it, I guess. Um, sorry for all the other people that, um, weren't, um, able to, um, get their questions answered. Um, we are publishing, uh, a full transcript of this presentation. Um- 01:28:54,190 --> 01:28:54,910 [Nathan] Mm-hmm 01:28:55,110 --> 01:29:01,550 [Leonie] ... and about a rebrand. Yes, we rebranded the server just recently to iiSU. Um- 01:29:01,550 --> 01:29:01,970 [Nathan] Yeah. I- 01:29:01,970 --> 01:29:12,130 [Leonie] I think we should wrap up at this point. Um, like I said, um, the website's coming. Um, we will be publishing a Q&A, um, on there as well so everyone has- 01:29:12,130 --> 01:29:12,140 [Nathan] Yeah 01:29:12,140 --> 01:29:16,530 [Leonie] ... has it written out, um, and finalized. Um- 01:29:16,530 --> 01:29:23,970 [Nathan] Sure. Yeah, website is our first priority right now for, for information. Um, especially with the Discord being shut down. 01:29:23,970 --> 01:29:24,030 [Leonie] Yeah. 01:29:24,030 --> 01:29:25,750 [Nathan] And 01:29:26,390 --> 01:29:53,330 [Nathan] I just want to let everyone know that we're, we're trying our best. I hope you can understand that this is not a, a big corpo with, like, a structured, um, like, 20-layer stack in case something happens. We're- we are just a- a bunch of small-time developers who are, are passionate. So I hope we can, we can get back on track and, like, assure everybody. But, um, hold on, hold on for a little bit and, um, 01:29:53,330 --> 01:30:29,130 [Nathan] you know, hopefully we can maintain. And I see this question being spammed in chat. I- I'm... There's no point in not addressing it. Someone said that my concern right now from this Q&A is communication problems, um, lack of transparency regarding how ROM and metadata collection will be as well as privacy concerns. Um, Leone can talk more on, like, the specific database specs. But for things like ROM, metadata collection, um, this will be pretty standard information. Like, anonymized, um, information to simply, um, be passed for scraping. And I- I don't think 01:30:29,130 --> 01:30:38,019 [Nathan] there, there should be that many privacy concerns. Um, I know with the account system, there's been some things. So, Leone, do- would you want to speak on, like, server security for accounts and for- 01:30:38,019 --> 01:30:57,980 [Leonie] We had, like, a few people trying to poke on the whole thing. Um, and yeah, they, um, actually managed to break a few things but nothing out of the ordinary. So, um, they weren't able to access any other people's data, only their own. So, that's also a huge plus at this point. Um- 01:30:57,980 --> 01:30:58,510 [Nathan] Mm-hmm. 01:30:58,510 --> 01:31:04,850 [Leonie] And we really a- We fixed, um, all those small little issues that are, like, 01:31:04,850 --> 01:31:08,769 [Leonie] uh, that someone might do. Um- 01:31:08,769 --> 01:31:09,549 [Nathan] Yeah. 01:31:09,550 --> 01:31:12,790 [Leonie] It's, it's great. [laughs] It's been going great so far. Um- 01:31:12,790 --> 01:31:13,630 [Nathan] Mm-hmm. [laughs]. 01:31:13,630 --> 01:31:15,830 [Leonie] Yeah. 01:31:15,830 --> 01:31:47,890 [Nathan] Yeah, I'm pretty happy with our security stack. Um, we're using pretty standard protocols for, for security with things like BetterAuth. Um, and I- I don't think there's nearly as much concern... I know it's always a little bit concerning with a small team managing accounts and e- everything. But there's, there's nothing we're doing that's breaking protocol, that's using some off, like, obscure, off-brand service for anything. So I think it can be pretty secure. We're gonna make sure that we're very transparent with everything, like security-wise, privacy-wise, um, across the full stack. But we can reveal more, like, technical details later. 01:31:47,890 --> 01:32:05,190 [Leonie] I also had the idea that we might introduce, um, a little, um, pictogram, um, that's like, um, like, um, Apple does it on their, uh, services that, um, if data is being shared to iiSU, um, you will be informed about that. 01:32:06,254 --> 01:32:06,853 [Nathan] ... for sure. 01:32:06,853 --> 01:32:10,294 [Leonie] That's also a thing we can definitely implement. 01:32:10,294 --> 01:32:14,414 [Nathan] We're not collecting any unnecessary telemetry. We're not gonna have any crazy app permissions- 01:32:14,414 --> 01:32:14,424 [Leonie] Okay 01:32:14,424 --> 01:32:20,193 [Nathan] ... we're not gonna have anything beyond what's absolutely needed just to keep you logged into your account. We- 01:32:20,193 --> 01:32:23,532 [Leonie] We don't even know where you live [laughs]. 01:32:23,534 --> 01:32:23,933 [Nathan] We really What? 01:32:23,933 --> 01:32:26,954 [Leonie] We don't even know where, where you live, so. 01:32:26,954 --> 01:32:38,853 [Nathan] No, we don't. We don't have any of that, but there's not... You have many more concerns on any other website that's being scraped by Meta and Google for, for ads and for data, I promise. 01:32:38,853 --> 01:32:42,294 [Leonie] Nope, that's pretty much it. 01:32:42,294 --> 01:32:58,754 [Leonie] Okay, I think we, um, answered most of the questions. Like I said, we will ha- um, publish a website, um, anytime soon. Um, right now we are going to the weekend and, um, just breathe a little [laughs]. 01:32:58,754 --> 01:33:10,454 [Nathan] Yeah, I think that's, that's what we need a little bit of. Um, we're, we're gonna keep on working, but I think the devs definitely need a break for... from a lot of this, this craziness. 01:33:10,454 --> 01:33:17,534 [Nathan] We're gonna try to... Nope. We're gonna try to, to dial in and, um, 01:33:17,534 --> 01:33:28,754 [Nathan] keep rev- keep consolidating information, um, being as transparent as we can about everything, finalizing things. I think people can understand that this is a little bit sudden. So, um, 01:33:28,754 --> 01:33:34,834 [Nathan] it, it's a shame in what's, what's happened to some of the community, um, with this whole 01:33:34,834 --> 01:34:26,273 [Nathan] situation. But I really hope that we can... we can make good on it and show that we're very dedicated to making the community safe. Um, I, I really do wanna emphasize that I'm ex- I'm extremely sorry for anyone who was... who was damaged, anyone whose partners were damaged, um, throughout all, all the controversy that happened. And I really... I really wanna make sure that this, this project can... succeeds because I see that there's still a lot of people that care for it and we will try our best to, to bring it to reality. So, that's, that's my main statement. We'll, we'll release some more stuff in text for people who missed part of the Q&A or the whole thing entirely. So, so don't worry. But all I can say is just the, the project's not canceled. EC is, is fine. Funding is fine. Um, we, we haven't lost any, any, any devs, I, I can tell you that. Um, and- 01:34:26,273 --> 01:34:26,853 [Leonie] Up la 01:34:26,853 --> 01:34:30,154 [Nathan] ... we'll keep going forward. 01:34:30,154 --> 01:34:34,154 [Leonie] Okay. Um, bye. 01:34:34,154 --> 01:34:46,233 [Nathan] [laughs] Thank you. I'll, I'll try to keep everyone up to date. Um, 01:34:46,233 --> 01:34:59,353 [Nathan] please have, have some faith in the project. That's, that's all I can say. Thank you so much everyone.